XnView Software

XnView MP itself uses umlauts without any problems and the metadata sidecars are also saved correctly. But the preview displays them incorrectly. At least this happens with all files that have a text format. I set everything to ‘UTF-8’ in the settings to be on the safe side, but the programme itself seems to save everything correctly.

The screenshots are from an XMP sidecar and a normal text file.

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Still facing lots of issues and confusion with how XnViewMP handles sidecars.

When i assign Photoshop to Open With (Alt+1) menu and start it with on 007.ARW then it creates sidecar 007.XMP .

1. However that 007.XMP is only used when i use Open With (Alt+1) from XnViewMP menu, if i open using Photoshop > File > Open and select 007.ARW it does NOT load 007.XMP automatically as it should.

2. If Photoshop > File > Open used then changes made to 007.ARW in Adobe Camera Raw then it saves new sidecar file 007 .arw_xmp because file 007.XMP already exists.


Pinpointed the problem its because when opening 007.ARW with Open With (Alt+1) and save changes then inside 007.XMP it adds line
photoshop:SidecarForExtension="ARW "
space after "ARW ", this is reason it never being auto loaded from Photoshop Photoshop > File > Open


If Photoshop > File > Open then save XMP it will have
photoshop:SidecarForExtension="ARW"
no space after "ARW", then XMP loads properly when opening from Photoshop > File > Open and select 007.ARW


From what i understand when opening one file in XnViewMP using Alt+1 then it adds spaced "ARW " to that file's XMP, however if opening multiple files in XnViewMP then it adds spaced "ARW " only to the last file in series, must be something in part of source that supply file path or file name to external program.

Ideally, I want a set-up that mimics this :
- I shoot in RAW+JPG, so after importing I want files to be linked so that I do not see duplicated images.
- I want the actions I perform through the culling process to be applied to each photo (If I rate an image, the rating applies to the companion JPG file as well as the RAW that I've rated (or vice versa)

- My personal desired methodology :
- Rating 5 stars: (Keeps RAW+JPG) photos I absolutely want to keep and will likely post
- Rating 4 stars: (Keeps RAW+JPG) photos that are great and backups to post
- Rating 3 stars: (Keeps RAW+JPG) May review later and are average at best. May have been shot more for the memory rather than the quality
- Rating 2 stars: (Keeps JPG only) Keeping the JPG only for the purpose of memory. no intention to potentially edit in the future
- Rating 1 star: Honestly, don't even plan to use this. I figure everything else that doesn't make the list above would be deleted.

Bonjour,
Merci pour la réponse.
J'utilise la version 1.9.3 64-bit pour Windows.
Dans les paramètres Métadonnées, j'ai trois lignes : Companion, Encodage et Libellés de couleur

Hi,

To show companion files, it must be activated in the parameters/file list/companion files

Hello,
I was testing my issues on version 1.9.3 and it seems to have been fixed at some point?
Sidecar files appear to be moved/deleted when acted on when viewing search & filter results.
Cheers!

Settings>Companion files - show companion files

Currently when a file is loaded, XnView checks always if there is file.xm or file.ext.xmp

Should this be according to the activation of the 'Create or update XMP sidecar' setting?


No, "creating or updating" a sidecar file should be a separate option.

You said it "ALWAYS" checks.

When opening a file, It should only check (and then read the XMP) if the IMPORT options are checked on the Metadata page.

It should only write the file if "Create or update XMP sidecar" is checked.

As for the companion file settings, it only needs to check and process the XMP if the master file is deleted, moved, or renamed.

nope
I think it should stay like this:
read (Settings > Companion files)
* -- {ext}.xmp;xmp in Association list


write (Settings > Metadata > Sidecar)
'Create or update XMP sidecar' checkbox



On the other hand, I would probably merge these 2 settings tabs somehow as sidecar is a subset of companion files

Complément d'analyse par rapport à ma réponse précédente.

Dans ma config de paramétrage XnViewMP dans le module "Métadonnées/Companion" j'ai les options suivantes :
- pas de création ou mise à jour du sidecar XMP
- convention de nommage <nom de fichier>.xmp

Cette option est plus pour l'ecriture des .xmp
Actuellement, "<nom de fichier>.xmp" ou "<nom de fichier>.<extension>.xmp" si existe est chargé.

Du point de vue de la compatibilité, je vais demander sur le forum.

Currently when a file is loaded, XnView checks always if there is file.xm or file.ext.xmp

Should this be according to the activation of the 'Create or update XMP sidecar' setting?

my main problem
--> Simultaneous playback of sound files with the same name when displaying an image <--

Do I have to write a script for this function?
Forgive me, unfortunately I have not found any information or a link for integrating scripts.
I am a pensioner, I programmed TurboPascal 30 years ago . . .

- Which scripting language is it ? GhostScript ?
- how are scripts integrated and saved in XnView MP ?

many thanks in advance
Gerald


Gerald, I think we are having a communications problem with Pierre here.

As best as I can tell, this functionality just does not work.

When you open an image in the viewer that has a .WAV sidecar file, XnViewMP should play the WAV file automatically. It does not.

I hope Pierre will see this and understand what we mean and add this functionality.

maybe date change detection would be safer?

If one swaps cat with dog in the same sidecar it should be the same size and no change detected

xmp file size or date change?

just the same as in change detection routine for image files
is there any reason why it could be different?

xmp file size or date change?