Toggle "select all"

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Toggle "select all"

Postby Dreamer » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:21 pm

Toggle select all for menu item, toolbar button and keyboard shortcut Ctrl+A, to toggle between:

- select all items
- deselect all items

If more than 1 and less than all items are selected, then do the same, for example:

- 3 items are selected
- press Ctrl+A
- all items will be selected
- press Ctrl+A again
- no items will be selected
- press Ctrl+A
- all items will be selected
...
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby xnview » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:33 am

Everybody agrees?
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby JohnFredC » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:46 am

I agree
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby Ty » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:49 pm

I agree.
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby oops66 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:50 pm

I agree too, but in this case do the same thing for the TAG function ( crtl+T) should be "tag all/untag all" too (instead invert selection)
(same behavior & menu names for crtl+A and crtl+T for a standardization)
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby Dreamer » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:29 pm

oops66 wrote:...but in this case do the same thing for the TAG function ( crtl+T) should be "tag all/untag all" too (instead invert selection)

Ctrl+T - tag, is not the same function, it's to tag the current, selected file(s) only. Ctrl+T and Space key work the same way as Insert and Space in the file managers and this shouldn't be changed. These shortcuts shouldn't tag all files, only if the files are selected, then I agree with the same behavior - tag all > untag all (selected files).
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby oops66 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:46 am

Ah right , but : I usually tag my photo into the full screen mode with only the bistable shortcut "T" under v1.96.5 ( "T" Tag, "T" untag, "T" Tag...).
The "Ctrl+T" is to tag the selected file into the browser mode ( "ctrl+T"Tag, "ctrl+T" untag, "ctrl+T" Tag...), I usually use the mouse to tag photo into the browser mode.
And into the View mode "T" or "Ctrl+T" tag the current file but a new "T" or "ctrl+T" does not untag the file :bug:
And into the View menu (browser mode) "Ctrl+T" is to invert the selection ( see menu: View\Tag\Invert (Ctrl+T)), then it's a bite confusing.


So I think it will be a good thing to harmonize these both similar functions: (select and Tag), ... same behavior, same menu structure, same menu names, same shortcuts structure.
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby Dreamer » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:36 pm

Added in the latest beta.

Moved to "1.97 Testing - Feedback".

- Tag still work the old way (toggle selected).

- Ctrl+A works good, but after the items are deselected, no item is selected - I think the previously selected file should be selected.
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby xnview » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:06 am

Dreamer wrote:- Tag still work the old way (toggle selected).

And what do you want?
- Ctrl+A works good, but after the items are deselected, no item is selected - I think the previously selected file should be selected.

No i don't think...
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby Dreamer » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:05 am

xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:- Tag still work the old way (toggle selected).

And what do you want?

Ctrl+T is to invert tag, this is OK, but Insert and Space keys functions might be changed, as oops66 has suggested. Often I select several files and I want to tag all selected, but since some of those files are already tagged, it's not possible, so the only way is to manually tag the files one by one.

Missing feature which would help is "toggle tag/untag selected", so I suggest to change the shortcuts "Insert" and "Space" to toggle tag selected. For example:

- files 1, 3, 5 are tagged
- select files 1-6
- press Insert
- files 1-6 will be tagged
- press Insert
- files 1-6 will be untagged

It's similar to "Invert", but basically it's the combination of existing options (without shortcuts) in menu > view > tag > "tag current" and "untag current". I think it might be added also to menu, so here is my final suggestion:

- menu > view > tag > "Toggle" (toggle between "tag current" and "untag current")

- keyboard shortcuts "Insert" and "Space" to "Toggle" (toggle between "tag current" and "untag current")

xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:- Ctrl+A works good, but after the items are deselected, no item is selected - I think the previously selected file should be selected.

No i don't think...

Hmm... in XnView, when I go to any folder, the first item is selected, when I go up, previous folder is selected, this is very useful. In Explorer and other file managers, when I deselect all files, the last selected file is selected, or focused - always. This is also very useful. Since the file can't be focused in XnView, it should be selected IMHO. At least as option. It is easy to deselect all items and reset the position, but it's impossible to restore the position once it has been lost

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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby oops66 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:09 am

+1 I agree,
As I said before:
"I think it will be a good thing to harmonize (standardize) these both similar functions: (select and Tag), ... same behavior, same menu structure, same menu names, same shortcuts structure."
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby xnview » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:02 pm

Dreamer wrote:- keyboard shortcuts "Insert" and "Space" to "Toggle" (toggle between "tag current" and "untag current")

Ok, so you would like that Space/Insert work different than Ctrl+T, right?
Must be changed like new Ctrl+A (for tag)?
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby Dreamer » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:44 pm

Not exactly like Ctrl+A, because Ctrl+A is to select/deselect all files, Insert/Space would tag/untag all selected files only. This feature is missing. There is "invert", "tag all selected", "untag all selected" (these without shortcut), but "toggle" - between tag/untag all selected is missing.

oops66 - if you want the same option as Ctrl+A to tag/untag all files, then perhaps a new shortcut might be added - Ctrl+Alt+A (seems to be free) to tag/untag all files. This item is missing in the menu too! There is only "Untag all" (to untag all files in the current dir).
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby oops66 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:53 pm

Dreamer wrote:...oops66 - if you want the same option as Ctrl+A to tag/untag all files, then perhaps a new shortcut might be added - Ctrl+Alt+A (seems to be free) to tag/untag all files. This item is missing in the menu too! There is only "Untag all" (to untag all files in the current dir).

Hello Dreamer
Personally, I agree !
but Ctrl+Alt+T is better for Tag
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Re: Toggle "select all"

Postby xnview » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:00 pm

Dreamer wrote:Not exactly like Ctrl+A, because Ctrl+A is to select/deselect all files, Insert/Space would tag/untag all selected files only. This feature is missing. There is "invert", "tag all selected", "untag all selected" (these without shortcut), but "toggle" - between tag/untag all selected is missing.

Sorry but i don't understand what you would like for Insert/Space? :-)
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