0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

[Germie]

Hi folks!

I am pretty new to XnViewMP so please go easy on me
I have a little problem here. When I import raw files the thumbnails look great:

<fig. 1>
Now, when I change folders and come back to this folder it looks like this:

<fig. 2>
When I doubleclick an item it looks like this:

<fig. 3>
When I return to thumbnail explorer (which still looks like <fig. 2>, select all thumbnails en do menu / view / rebuild thumbnail it looks like this again:

<fig. 4)

Moving from the current folder to any other one and back to this one resets the thumbnails again to fig. 2.

These are raw files from the Sony RX10, but I've also seen it on G3x CR2 files
Am I doing this wrong?

Kind regards from Holland

Germie

[XnTriq]

Welkom aan boord, Germie

What are your settings for the following options?

1. Tools → Settings... → General → General → Rotate images according to EXIF orientation tag
2. Tools → Settings... → View → View → Camera RAW, use

[Germie]

Thans for the quick reply XnTriq,

The first setting is checked
The second setting is "embedded preview"

Welterusten

Gewrmie

[m.Th.]

Saw it sporadically in 0.86 again after a looong time. Used to appear in older versions. Same settings like Germie. Working with CR2 files.

[XnTriq]

Saw it sporadically in 0.86 again after a looong time. Used to appear in older versions. Same settings like Germie. Working with CR2 files.

Thanks for chiming in, m.Th.
I don't know what to make of this

[XnTriq]

I went looking for some ARW samples produced by a DSC-RX10 and downloaded YDSC03061.ARW from Imaging Resource. According to the Exif report for this particular file, the camera orientation flag is set to “Rotate 270 CW”. I used JPEGSnoop to extract the embedded JPEGs: thumbnail (160×120) & preview (1616×1080). To my surprise, the preview doesn't contain any EXIF information at all.

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[xnview]

is it possible to have the files?

[Germie]

I'll send you some files tonight.
Do you have an upload location?

Regards
Germie

[cday]

I'll send you some files tonight.
Do you have an upload location?

Please see the email address on this Contact page...

[Germie]

Here are samples to download:

RX10:
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... x10_18.arw
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... x10_19.arw

G3X:
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... 3_x_60.cr2
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... 3_x_59.cr2

G16:
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... g16_17.cr2
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... g16_20.cr2

To reproduce:
1. download in a testfolder and open folder in XnViewMP.
2. Add a keyword so xmp files are created (in settings|browser|metadata|IPTC & XMP export db category is checked and create XMP and create IPTC as well) And update or create XMP sidecar with <filename>.xmp is checked.
3. Move in XnViewMP to another folder
4. Return to the testfolder: All portrait files are now in landscape.

Regards from Holland

Germie

BTW The XMP file of one of these files looks like this:

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<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="XMP Core 5.5.0">
   <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
            xmlns:lr="http://ns.adobe.com/lightroom/1.0/">
         <dc:subject>
            <rdf:Bag>
               <rdf:li>ADF</rdf:li>
            </rdf:Bag>
         </dc:subject>
         <lr:hierarchicalSubject>
            <rdf:Bag>
               <rdf:li>Gebeurtenis|ADF</rdf:li>
            </rdf:Bag>
         </lr:hierarchicalSubject>
      </rdf:Description>
   </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>

[xnview]

Here are samples to download:

RX10:
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... x10_18.arw
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... x10_19.arw

G3X:
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... 3_x_60.cr2
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... 3_x_59.cr2

G16:
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... g16_17.cr2
http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/ ... g16_20.cr2

sorry but i have no access to your files

[Germie]

Hi Pierre,

Sorry about that.
Try this link instead: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4120vnwaan49 ... s.zip?dl=0

Regards
Germie

[xnview]

Hi Pierre,

Sorry about that.
Try this link instead: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4120vnwaan49 ... s.zip?dl=0

Regards
Germie

Do you reproduce with these files? there is no orientation field...

[Germie]

Hi Pierre,

Sorry about that.
Try this link instead: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4120vnwaan49 ... s.zip?dl=0

Regards
Germie

Do you reproduce with these files? there is no orientation field...

Hi Pierre,

Yes I did test with these files.
Essential for reproduction is de creation of an XMP file by adding i.e. a keyword.
After that the portrait thumbnails change to landscape.

Regards
Germie

[xnview]

sorry but i can't reproduce, could you post a screenshot?