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Re: 0.86 Thumbnail orientation

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:47 am
by Germie
xnview wrote:sorry but i can't reproduce, could you post a screenshot?
Hmmmm. thats odd.
I'm not at the pc with xnviewmp right now. I tested with these files yesterday evening.
It looks precisely as described above. Screenshots -with other files- are in the first post.

Regards
Germie

Re: 0.86 Thumbnail orientation

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:00 pm
by XnTriq
Germie wrote:Essential for reproduction is de creation of an XMP file by adding i.e. a keyword.
After that the portrait thumbnails change to landscape.
Confirmed! I'll be back with step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce this behavior.

Re: 0.86 Thumbnail orientation

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:57 pm
by m.Th.
xnview wrote:
Germie wrote:Hi Pierre,

Sorry about that.
Try this link instead: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4120vnwaan49 ... s.zip?dl=0

Regards
Germie
Do you reproduce with these files? there is no orientation field...

...I remember a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away that I've sent you some NEF files and you responded the same. In fact, the problem is more complicated because definitely there IS another factor involved because if one will do a Rebuild Thumbnails on the very same set of files the new thumbs will have the correct orientation.

IIRC then you sent me a debugging version with log viewer enabled and we fixed the issue somehow. However now I don't remember what it was.

Besides that, it is very odd: How "is no orientation field" since the files are SOOC? Perhaps you're looking where it shouldn't? Perhaps the orientation bit is recorded somewhere else more reliably? ...or perhaps your the detection tool isn't written entirely correct?

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:30 pm
by XnTriq
  1. Download sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw to an empty folder (e.g. X:\Test\).
  2. Activate the following options in ToolsSettings...:
    • GeneralGeneralRotate images according to EXIF orientation tag
    • ThumbnailMiscUse embedded thumbnail
    • MetadataIPTC & XMPKeywordsExport DB Category to XMP Subject and IPTC Keyword
    • MetadataIPTC & XMPKeywordsUpdate or create XMP Sidecar
    • CatalogCatalogEnable thumbnail caching
    • ViewViewCamera RAW, use [ Embedded preview ]
  3. Point the browser to X:\Test\.
  4. Select the thumbnail (portrait) for sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw.
  5. Right-click the thumbnail to get to the context menu.
  6. Go to CategoryPhotographsTravel.
  7. Point the browser to a different folder.
  8. Return to X:\Test\.
    The thumbnail for sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw changed from portrait to landscape. :bug:
  9. Select the thumbnail for sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw.
  10. Go to ViewRebuild thumbnails.
    The thumbnail for sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw changes from landscape to portrait.
<!-- // UPDATE //

The problem doesn't occur if ToolsSettings...ThumbnailMiscUse embedded thumbnail is deactivated.

// UPDATE //-->


BTW: In my tests, the XMP sidecar file…

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<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="XMP Core 5.5.0">
   <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
      <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
            xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/"
            xmlns:MicrosoftPhoto="http://ns.microsoft.com/photo/1.0/"
            xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
            xmlns:lr="http://ns.adobe.com/lightroom/1.0/">
         <xmp:Rating>0</xmp:Rating>
         <xmp:Label>None</xmp:Label>
         <MicrosoftPhoto:Rating>0</MicrosoftPhoto:Rating>
         <dc:subject>
            <rdf:Bag>
               <rdf:li>Travel</rdf:li>
            </rdf:Bag>
         </dc:subject>
         <lr:hierarchicalSubject>
            <rdf:Bag>
               <rdf:li>Photographs|Travel</rdf:li>
            </rdf:Bag>
         </lr:hierarchicalSubject>
      </rdf:Description>
   </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
… wasn't created unless I ran the Update files from catalog command in the View menu.

Re: 0.86 Thumbnail orientation

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:45 pm
by XnTriq
m.Th. wrote:Saw it sporadically in 0.86 again after a looong time. Used to appear in older versions. Same settings like Germie. Working with CR2 files.
m.Th. wrote:...I remember a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away that I've sent you some NEF files and you responded the same.

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:32 am
by helmut
XnTriq, from what I can see you could reproduce the problem, right?

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:00 am
by XnTriq
helmut wrote:XnTriq, from what I can see you could reproduce the problem, right?
Correct (see steps 1 through 10). I hope that's the issue described by Germie and m.Th.

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm
by Germie
XnTriq wrote: I hope that's the issue described by Germie and m.Th.
That is correct!

Regards
Germie

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:51 pm
by xnview
XnTriq wrote:Download sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw to an empty folder (e.g. X:\Test\).
the file is no more available :(

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:45 pm
by XnTriq
xnview wrote:
XnTriq wrote:Download sony_cybershot_dsc_rx10_18.arw to an empty folder (e.g. X:\Test\).
the file is no more available :(
You've got mail ;-)

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:28 pm
by xnview
O.k., thank you, I can also reproduce the problem. Issue 1213 is fixed in next version.

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:47 pm
by xnview
This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 0.87. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.

Re: 0.86: Wrong thumbnail orientation for raw files

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:30 am
by XnTriq
xnview wrote:This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 0.87. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
Confirmed fixed :bugfixed: