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Re: "Most common" file types

Post by Olivier_G » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:45 pm

xnview wrote:But perhaps a problem for users that don't see TGA as output format the first time!!
2 suggestions:
A. Add a small checkbox "Show all file types" near the Type list.
B. Always show all file types. Just put the "most common" selected on the top.
...this way, new users wouldn't be wondering what to do if the format they want to use is not in the "most common" list.

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Post by Olivier_G » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:08 pm

I just realised that B could even become a good solution for this thread: just select the file type in the droplist... or type there the 3 letters of the format needed.
=> a common file type is just 2 clicks away
=> an unusual file type is only 3 keys away and always available (less confusing for new users)
(and each one would be able to choose his/her prefered file types on top)

Moreover, it would not change the GUI nor add any clutter to the interface.

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Post by xnview » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:11 pm

Olivier_G wrote:I just realised that B could even become a good solution for this thread: just select the file type in the droplist... or type there the 3 letters of the format needed.
=> a common file type is just 2 clicks away
=> an unusual file type is only 3 keys away and always available (less confusing for new users)
(and each one would be able to choose his/her prefered file types on top)

Moreover, it would not change the GUI nor add any clutter to the interface.
Sorry but i don't understand your suggestion :-)
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Post by Olivier_G » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:13 pm

I start again from scratch... :mrgreen:

The current Options>Write>'File types' would allow the user to specify the file types to appear on top of droplists (the whole list would always be shown just after). In a Save/Convert window, you would see a 'type' droplist like this:

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- The user would be able to change his/her preferred types to appear on top by selecting/deselecting them in Options>Write>'File types'.
- By using full quick search in the droplist, he/she would be able to access quickly any file type by typing its 3 letters.

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Post by xnview » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:15 pm

Olivier_G wrote:I start again from scratch... :mrgreen:

The current Options>Write>'File types' would allow the user to specify the file types to appear on top of droplists (the whole list would always be shown just after). In a Save/Convert window, you would see a 'type' droplist like this:

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BMP 
GIF 
JPG 
PNG 
TIF
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92i
BMP
CIN
...
...
XPM
YUV
YUV
- The user would be able to change his/her preferred types to appear on top by selecting/deselecting them in Options>Write>'File types'.
- By using full quick search in the droplist, he/she would be able to access quickly any file type by typing its 3 letters.
Oh ok. So you means that Option/Write/File type must not hide formats, but only sort them!
Everybody agrees?
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Post by marsh » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:44 pm

xnview wrote: Oh ok. So you means that Option/Write/File type must not hide formats, but only sort them!
Everybody agrees?
No, I would rather keep current method with common defaults.
Perhaps renaming "Write>File Types" to "Write>Show File Types" could help users discover function in the menu.
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Post by Irving » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:46 pm

This latest idea seems okay enough, as long as you're the type who doesn't shorten the list to begin with.

I personally want to see the most common buttons right there on the Save box. Leave all the "oddities" in the dropdown.

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Post by helmut » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:23 pm

Olivier_G wrote:I just realised that B could even become a good solution for this thread: just select the file type in the droplist... or type there the 3 letters of the format needed.
=> a common file type is just 2 clicks away
=> an unusual file type is only 3 keys away and always available (less confusing for new users)
(and each one would be able to choose his/her prefered file types on top)

Moreover, it would not change the GUI nor add any clutter to the interface.

Olivier
Good stuff, Olivier! I really like this solution, it combines various advantages:
- User can see the most important file types
- User can see that there is many more file types available and can choose one of them if needed.
- Simple and clear handling & GUI

This would make the option "Options > Write > Formats" superfluous. Though some people might have different "Most common" files which they would like to be listed at top. So perhaps the solution is a customizable list of "Most common" file types (instead of setting which entries are listed, one sets which entries are listed at top).

The fully featured solution would be a fully customizable file list, i.e. for each entry you can set visibility and position in file list, but I think that would be an overkill.

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Post by Dreamer » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:24 am

helmut wrote:Good stuff, Olivier! I really like this solution...
Check this one and this one :wink:
helmut wrote:Though some people might have different "Most common" files which they would like to be listed at top. So perhaps the solution is a customizable list of "Most common" file types (instead of setting which entries are listed, one sets which entries are listed at top).

The fully featured solution would be a fully customizable file list, i.e. for each entry you can set visibility and position in file list, but I think that would be an overkill.
This could be a part of a "special page" or ini - for advanced users (more here).

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Post by Olivier_G » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:58 am

Dreamer wrote:Check this one and this one :wink:
:shock: ...!!!... :shock: .......... :(
Doh!!! I feel stupid now. Either I am lousy thief... or worse: I don't read your messages... :mrgreen:

Sorry about that Dreamer.
(at least, I kept repeating your idea without even noticing -> it's an efficient way to spread ideas... :D )

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Post by helmut » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:32 am

Olivier_G wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Check this one and this one :wink:
:shock: ...!!!... :shock: .......... :(
Doh!!! I feel stupid now. Either I am lousy thief... or worse: I don't read your messages... :mrgreen:

Sorry about that Dreamer.
(at least, I kept repeating your idea without even noticing -> it's an efficient way to spread ideas... :D )
Two people - same idea. This shows two things:
- The idea is good.
- Sometimes it takes the right time to make an idea real and people aware ;-)

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Post by Dreamer » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:56 pm

Olivier, don't worry about that. :)

BTW I think there is another, older post with this suggestion from me. :wink:

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Post by xnview » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:43 am

Dreamer wrote:Olivier, don't worry about that. :)

BTW I think there is another, older post with this suggestion from me. :wink:
Sorry, there is many many posts, and i forget some suggestions :-(
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Post by helmut » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:04 pm

xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Olivier, don't worry about that. :)

BTW I think there is another, older post with this suggestion from me. :wink:
Sorry, there is many many posts, and i forget some suggestions :-(
This is why we have the Global Request & Suggestion list. I've just added this one. ;-)

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Post by helmut » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:18 pm

I think with the solution we found it's very essential that in the dropdownlist the most important formats are separated from all the other formats using a separator.

(In 1.80 Alpha there is no separator).

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