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Defaults for Mouse

Post by xnview » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:46 am

In XnView, we have:
Left button => Make selection
Right button => Move picture
Mouse wheel => Zoom

In XnViewMP, we have
Left button => Move picture
Left button + CTRL => Make selection
Right button => Move picture
Right button + CTRL => Nothing
Mouse wheel => previous/next file
Mouse wheel + CTRL => Zoom in/out

Many new users complain about new default for left button, what would like be the best?

I think that we must have "Left button => Make selection"
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by oops66 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:56 pm

xnview wrote:...I think that we must have "Left button => Make selection"
+1, my vote for the standardization ;-)
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by cday » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:54 pm

xnview wrote:...I think that we must have "Left button => Make selection"
+1 Yes, better and easier transition from XnView 'Classic'...

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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by xnview » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:17 pm

oops66 wrote:
xnview wrote:...I think that we must have "Left button => Make selection"
+1, my vote for the standardization ;-)
And "Left button + CTRL => Move Picture"?
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by oops66 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:19 pm

For me, the default behavior for both (XnViewMP & XnView):
"Left button => Make selection"
"Left button + CTRL => "I do not know"
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by m.Th. » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:35 am

Already discussed here:

http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.p ... 9&p=118675

There are some contradicting forces in our situation:

1. The default behavior of XnView.
2. The default behavior of everything else: XnView MP, FastStone, Lr, Zoner, FastPictureViewer, ACDSee etc.
The "Make selection" (default in XnView) - low importance feature since the only real thing which you can do with it is Crop. (ok, I know - sometimes important) but the crowd which wants to do a Pan/Zoom navigation (see for ex. FastStone from the bunch of programs which I mentioned above) is much more widely used than rectangular non-feathering selection in a Picture Browser/Manager like XnView MP.

That's why I would vote to keep the defaults as they are (perhaps a little bit wording improvement is needed). Optionally in the Setup Wizard and/or in Tools | Options an 'Use XnView Classic Defaults' button should be provided.
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by m.Th. » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:39 am

oops66 wrote:For me, the default behavior for both (XnViewMP & XnView):
"Left button => Make selection"
"Left button + CTRL => "I do not know"
Hummm.... Are you sure? :)

Last year it was different...

http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.p ... 16#p118931
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by oops66 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:23 am

m.Th. wrote:... Are you sure? :)
I am sure than a standardization is needed for both XnView & XnViewMP ;-) ... after that, this is a democratic vote, so make your vote ;-)
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by m.Th. » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:32 am

oops66 wrote:
m.Th. wrote:... Are you sure? :)
I am sure than a standardization is needed for both XnView & XnViewMP ;-) ... after that, this is a democratic vote, so make your vote ;-)
Sure.

But as I said, the standard should be the one which all the other programs have.
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by xnview » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:44 am

m.Th. wrote:
oops66 wrote:
m.Th. wrote:... Are you sure? :)
I am sure than a standardization is needed for both XnView & XnViewMP ;-) ... after that, this is a democratic vote, so make your vote ;-)
Sure.

But as I said, the standard should be the one which all the other programs have.
Currently i receive many emails from users, they want to make a selection with left button, and don't understand why it's with CTRL
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by m.Th. » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:57 pm

xnview wrote: Currently i receive many emails from users, they want to make a selection with left button, and don't understand why it's with CTRL
That's I proposed an upgrade option: to take care of the users of XnView Classic. Mind you, you must keep them of course, but more important is to bring new blood to the community.
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Re: Defaults for Mouse

Post by oops66 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:10 pm

m.Th. wrote:Sure. But as I said, the standard should be the one which all the other programs have.
Yes, but the question remains ... which one? ... the easier and faster way is probably to use, in a first step, the "XnView classic" standard.
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