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				0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:22 pm
				by monitor
				After working with some images - editing and inspecting metadata - mostly with XnViewMP, I find several files with the extension jpg_original in my directories.
I understand that these might be produced by ExifTool; I did inspect some files by some Exiftool derivatives or GUI front ends, but I don't recall editing or changing any data with those.
Does XnViewMP use Exiftool in any way for editing or changing the images.
TIA.
PS: I did search the fori=um, but the search engine always ignores the jpg_ prefix 

 
			
					
				Re: *.jpg_original
				Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:19 pm
				by m.Th.
				ExifTool is definitely used in displaying EXIF data in certain cases (there is a dedicated tab for it) - however these files appear only when EXIF is modified (?)
			 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:53 pm
				by helmut
				After browsing search results for "jpg_original" and the above descriptions it's pretty sure that these files are created by Exiftool.
@Pierre: In which detailed scenario are these file created? Are these files of some use for the XnView user? Is there a way to surpress these files?
			 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:07 am
				by xnview
				these files are created by ExifTool as a backup
			 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:54 am
				by helmut
				xnview wrote:these files are created by ExifTool as a backup
O.k., that confirms the assumption.
From the user perspective there is XnView MP, only, and it looks as if XnView MP creates these files. I much doubt that these files are wanted by users. Is there a way to surpress these backup files?
 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:35 am
				by xnview
				helmut wrote:xnview wrote:these files are created by ExifTool as a backup
O.k., that confirms the assumption.
From the user perspective there is XnView MP, only, and it looks as if XnView MP creates these files. I much doubt that these files are wanted by users. Is there a way to surpress these backup files?
 
yes, but only if the setting for backup is not enabled
 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:43 am
				by helmut
				xnview wrote:helmut wrote:xnview wrote:these files are created by ExifTool as a backup
O.k., that confirms the assumption.
From the user perspective there is XnView MP, only, and it looks as if XnView MP creates these files. I much doubt that these files are wanted by users. Is there a way to surpress these backup files?
 
yes, but only if the setting for backup is not enabled
 
How can the user change the setting for backup? In XnView MP? Or in ExifTool? As written before from the user perspective there is XnView MP, only. Could you add a setting in XnView MP that allows for changing the setting for backup?
 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:49 am
				by xnview
				settings>General>File operations>lossless transformations (but currently doesn't if exiftool is used)
			 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:26 pm
				by helmut
				xnview wrote:settings>General>File operations>lossless transformations (but currently doesn't if exiftool is used)
Many posts but little info.  

 The setting you mention is for JPEG lossless transformation. But is there a setting that allows a user to enable/disable the creation of files by the EXIF tool? Could you add such a setting in XnView MP?
 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:43 pm
				by xnview
				sorry not this one settings>File operations>Make backup
As i said currently the setting doesn't work with Exitool, need to be fixed
			 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:57 pm
				by helmut
				xnview wrote:sorry not this one settings>File operations>Make backup
As i said currently the setting doesn't work with Exitool, need to be fixed
O.k. I guess two (or more) settings would be good:
1. "Make backup when applying lossless JPEG transformations"
2. "Make backup when writing IPTC/EXIF data (EXIFTool)"
 

 Reproduced
 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:27 pm
				by xnview
				O.k., thank you, I can also reproduce the problem. 
Issue 1215 is fixed in next version.
 
			
					
				Re: 0.85: *.jpg_original files after editing metadata
				Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:48 pm
				by xnview
				This problem is supposed to be fixed in 
XnView MP 0.87. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.