The Greyscale B&W pictures (8 bits) read by XnView are darker than those read by PhotoShop.
I tried to know why. My diagnosis is the following : XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures.
Indeed, if I compare un greyscale chart read by PS and by XnView, I notice the following results :
read by PS / read by XnView
0 / 0
10 / 6
20 / 10
30 / 14
40 / 20
50 / 26
... / ...
100 / 65
... / ...
240 / 233
250 / 248
255 / 255
That explains the darkening !
The problem is the same with TIF or JPEG format
I located only one post about a similar problem but without solution to fix : http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=25212
I'm using the last version (1.99.5) but the problem existed with the previous versions
Thanks a lot for your help
XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
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Re: XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
I forgot to mention that XnView is running under Windows XP SP3
Sorry
Sorry
Re: XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
PhotoShop would sometimes apply color profiles...
You should try opening your images in other programs, to be sure.
You should try opening your images in other programs, to be sure.
Re: XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
XnTriq ([url=http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=24467&p=99157#p99157]Gamma in PNG[/url]) wrote:
- Willem van Schaik: PngSuite » Gamma values
- Henri Sivonen: The Sad Story of PNG Gamma “Correction”
- Trevor Morris: The PNG Gamma Dilemma
Re: XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
I've continued to investigate towards PS (thank to MaxSt for the idea!) and I noticed that the problem is only for the greyscale pictures resulted from a RGB to greyscale conversion done with PS. If the picture is originally a greyscale picture, PS and XnView read the picture in the same way!
Therefore, XNVIEW IS NOT RESPONSIBLE.
It's bother for me because I scan a lot of B&W negatives in RGB format and I convert in greyscale format with PS
(the conversion made by scanner is not satisfactory)
That means all my greyscale pictures converted with PS are not usable with other viewers.
Now, I must understand why PS applies such a profile when it converts, profile compensated when it reads the file.
Sorry to have you disturbed useless!
Therefore, XNVIEW IS NOT RESPONSIBLE.
It's bother for me because I scan a lot of B&W negatives in RGB format and I convert in greyscale format with PS
(the conversion made by scanner is not satisfactory)
That means all my greyscale pictures converted with PS are not usable with other viewers.
Now, I must understand why PS applies such a profile when it converts, profile compensated when it reads the file.
Sorry to have you disturbed useless!
Re: XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
For those interested :
To avoid the above mentionned problem, you must modify the PS gray workspace : from "dot grain 15%" (default value) to "gray gamma 2.2"
To avoid the above mentionned problem, you must modify the PS gray workspace : from "dot grain 15%" (default value) to "gray gamma 2.2"
Re: XnView does'nt read properly Greyscale pictures
Thank you for reporting back, floyer (-:floyer wrote:For those interested :
To avoid the above mentionned problem, you must modify the PS gray workspace : from "dot grain 15%" (default value) to "gray gamma 2.2"
FYI: Batch processing these samples…
- ew0031477633c-straightup-320-srgb.png
- ew0031477633c-black00.png
- ew0031477633c-black00-srgb1.png
- ew0031477633c-black07.png
- ew0031477633c-black07-srgb1.png
(Source files and output were inspected using TweakPNG.)