XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
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XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
post deleted-returning to 'Standard' XnView-spent too much time on trying to solve the issues.sorry.
Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
Too bad.mrwul wrote:post deleted-returning to 'Standard' XnView-spent too much time on trying to solve the issues.sorry.
It is/was quite simple. Go to Tools | Settings | Database and enter the desired Width and Height of the thumbnail. Alternatively you can press the 'Get Thumbnail Size' button to get the actual thumbnail size from the Browser pane. The problem is/was Pierre chose as defaults way too small values for Thumbnail Height / Width. In the ideal case, perhaps he should ask at the beginning for these values (perhaps in the setup form?). The other points which you raised I don't remember exactly but all of them AFAIR were easy.
OTOH, IMHO this is a lesson for Pierre: The value of a program comes 80% from its human part (good OOTB settings, findability, usability, self-explaining GUI etc.) and just 20% from its technical part (features, speed etc.). See Windows & Mac OSX vs Linux & QNX (and many more examples).
m. Th.
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
The 'blurry' thumbnails are the main issue.
Have spent a lot of time to get this working, since yesterday.
Tried a number of thumbnail settings, like:
-tag-untag sharpen thumbnail
-tag-untag create high quality thumbnails
-compression: none, zip, high quality JPG
-rebuild thumbnail
-tried out the Get Thumbnail Size button
-cleared all and rebuild again
-un-installed all, clearing caching db (XnViewMP-c-drive-folder) plus re-install
-again tried various thumbnail-settings with the new .db cache
In the end I gave up - I could not get the thumbnails to be the same as with XnView 'standard'. I think someone else, a while ago, complained about 'fuzzy thumbnails' (see that thread). http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=20503
Seems something to do with embedded or so?
Anyway, I think users donot need spend so much time on trying to get things working.
Back to XnView standard now, all is okay. Maybe some time in future I'll give MP a try again.
This is by no means to criticise XnView!
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Have spent a lot of time to get this working, since yesterday.
Tried a number of thumbnail settings, like:
-tag-untag sharpen thumbnail
-tag-untag create high quality thumbnails
-compression: none, zip, high quality JPG
-rebuild thumbnail
-tried out the Get Thumbnail Size button
-cleared all and rebuild again
-un-installed all, clearing caching db (XnViewMP-c-drive-folder) plus re-install
-again tried various thumbnail-settings with the new .db cache
In the end I gave up - I could not get the thumbnails to be the same as with XnView 'standard'. I think someone else, a while ago, complained about 'fuzzy thumbnails' (see that thread). http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=20503
Seems something to do with embedded or so?
Anyway, I think users donot need spend so much time on trying to get things working.
Back to XnView standard now, all is okay. Maybe some time in future I'll give MP a try again.
This is by no means to criticise XnView!
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
XnViewMP does NOT regenerate the small previews if you modify the size of the thumbnail in the thumbs pane from the Browser. That's why you see them blurred.
Do like this:
Go to Tools | Settings | Database and put the desired thumbnail dimensions (for ex. 300 x 200). As compression, High Quality JPG should be fine.
On the same page click Optimize... and check (at least) Clean Thumbnails
It is better now?
PS: The thread you're mentioned isn't related to the issue, EXCEPT of course, if you use JPGs and the XnViewMP is set to use the JPG's embedded thumbs which are small.
The relevant thread is here: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=28179 Also, IMHO, my proposed implementation from that thread would solve all these problems.
m. Th.
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
If you choose the same size for thumbnail in the view AND for the database, you'll have the same behavior
Pierre.
Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
I am afraid AND am very sorry, but eh ... I donot understand.
XnViewMP has a slider to increase the size, when resizing, it gets blurred.
I have Directory Opus (Windows Explorer replacement) which also has a slider to increase/decrease the size, but there the quality remains high.
Please don't say that I should the use Opus then...
When zooming in, using XnView, the quality also remains high.
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XnViewMP has a slider to increase the size, when resizing, it gets blurred.
I have Directory Opus (Windows Explorer replacement) which also has a slider to increase/decrease the size, but there the quality remains high.
Please don't say that I should the use Opus then...
When zooming in, using XnView, the quality also remains high.
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
Pierre, we had a problem
I think that, finally, I had more right with my solution from here than I thought...
I'm afraid that when the user base will grow (if it will grow) you will have a plenty of support requests because of this...
I think that, finally, I had more right with my solution from here than I thought...
I'm afraid that when the user base will grow (if it will grow) you will have a plenty of support requests because of this...
m. Th.
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
Hopefully, soon I will be able to use XnViewMP without blurry thumbnails (after zooming).
I remembered that whilst building up the cache .db I stopped somewhere during the process as the .db was generated on my C-drive and exceeded 4GB.
My C-drive is relatively small (intended for Windows only)
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I remembered that whilst building up the cache .db I stopped somewhere during the process as the .db was generated on my C-drive and exceeded 4GB.
My C-drive is relatively small (intended for Windows only)
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
I don't understand, if you have large thumbnail size for the database, your thumbnail will not be blurred....
Which size do you use?
Which size do you use?
Pierre.
Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
Please check thumbnail size stored in database in Option>Database
Pierre.
Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
You mean here?
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Pls cud you advise what settings I should use there?
Am really uncertain.
I just unpacked XnViewMP again, so this is pretty much default.
Thanks.
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Pls cud you advise what settings I should use there?
Am really uncertain.
I just unpacked XnViewMP again, so this is pretty much default.
Thanks.
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
YES!You mean here?
For dummies: Put Width 300 and Height 200
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For smarties: Fix your thumbnails as you want. Perhaps make them a little bigger than you want. Press in the same window the "Get Thumbnail Size" button.
Also, compression is enough to have 'High Quality JPEG'
m. Th.
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Re: XnView Database- and blurred thumbnails questions
You mean like this?
Bravo!!!
m. Th.
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