Moderators: helmut, XnTriq, xnview
Sorry, misunderstood.xnview wrote:No if you have "dlb click to view in fullscreen".Dreamer wrote:It works already...xnview wrote:So i change ENTER to open picture and no more fullscreen.
So the option must be "dbl click to view in fullscreen" or "dbl click or enter to view in fullscreen"????
Dreamer wrote:And also for mouse:
[x] - "MMB click to fullscreen" (from viewer to standard / from browser to lite)
- this is already possible but the there is no option for this...
- so if it would be disabled, open in viewer, and also go from viewer back to browser with MMB
- reason (again) - MMB is redundant if "Dbl click to fullscreen is enabled"
Perhaps a new option is not needed.Dreamer wrote:Keyboard works quite good, so I need just MMB now...
Dreamer wrote:And also for mouse:
[x] - "MMB click to fullscreen" (from viewer to standard / from browser to lite)
- this is already possible but the there is no option for this...
- so if it would be disabled, open in viewer, and also go from viewer back to browser with MMB
- reason (again) - MMB is redundant if "Dbl click to fullscreen is enabled"
OK, but if "dbl click to go to fullscreen" is enabled, MMB is redundant.xnview wrote:Perhaps a new option is not needed.
Currently you have MMB in preview <=> lite fullscreen, & viewer <=> fullscreen, right?
I'll add MMB on thumbnail
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+---------------------+ +---------------------+
| Fullscreen standard | | Fullscreen lite |
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LMB double-click, F11 LMB double-click, F11
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+---------------------+ +---------------------+
| Viewer |--MMB, Enter--| Browser |
+---------------------+ +---------------------+Above MMB is not used to go to fullscreen, only to switch between viewer and browser. And enter doesn't go to fullscreen to...Dreamer wrote:OK, but if "dbl click to go to fullscreen" is enabled, MMB is redundant.xnview wrote:Perhaps a new option is not needed.
Currently you have MMB in preview <=> lite fullscreen, & viewer <=> fullscreen, right?
I'll add MMB on thumbnail
Maybe a new option is not needed - if "dbl click to go to fullscreen" is enabled, you could automatically change option for MMB - to switch between Browser and Viewer, but... switching between Viewer and Fullscreen standard must be also with dbl click, not MMB - I still think switching between all 4 modes with mouse is confusing. I think this would be the best way... (keys works already)
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+---------------------+ +---------------------+ | Fullscreen standard | | Fullscreen lite | +---------------------+ +---------------------+ | | LMB double-click, F11 LMB double-click, F11 | | +---------------------+ +---------------------+ | Viewer |--MMB, Enter--| Browser | +---------------------+ +---------------------+
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+---------------------+ +---------------------+
| Fullscreen standard | | Fullscreen lite |
+---------------------+ +---------------------+
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F11 F11
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+---------------------+ +---------------------+
| Viewer |--MMB, Enter--| Browser |
+---------------------+ +---------------------+The fullscreen from browser or lite fullscreen is better for users that want view only pictures/movies quickly. In 1.74, when you want to view a picture in fulscreen, xnview load picture in a view window, and then show it in fullscreen. Here there is no additional load process.helmut wrote:I've surely heard about the "light fullscreen" before, but have never read this thread thoroughly. To be honest, I don't like the idea of having another mode at all. As Dreamer has pointed out in one of his first posts, this is very confusing and definetely not intuitive.
To find a real solution, we have to first understand: Why was this mode introduced? What's the benefit of having another mode?
If the intention was to provide some sort of "shortcut" from browser to fullscreen, I think there should be an option which is off by default and can be activated by those users who want different behaviour for double-click on thumbnail and double-click on preview. Sure enough, the fullscreen should have the context menu people are used to, not the context menu of the preview.
This problem and the discussion might look like a small problem, but from my point of view this is actually a serious problem, since this is very confusing and people (including me) will not understand.
Yes, it's like I want it (as option), not like it is now.xnview wrote:Above MMB is not used to go to fullscreen, only to switch between viewer and browser. And enter doesn't go to fullscreen to...
It is not used if it's disabled, so you could switch between Viewer and Fullscreen standard then.xnview wrote:And if you have " dbl click to go to browser"???
No, when "dbl click to go to fullscreen" is disabled it works like that "image" but with LMB dbl click and MMB replaced - and I want just swap these options...xnview wrote:Above is when "dbl click to go to fullscreen" is enabled, right?
And if disabled, like that:Code: Select all
+---------------------+ +---------------------+ | Fullscreen standard | | Fullscreen lite | +---------------------+ +---------------------+ | | F11 F11 | | +---------------------+ +---------------------+ | Viewer |--MMB, Enter--| Browser | +---------------------+ +---------------------+
Yes. Sorry for my late comment. I should have joined the discussion before and give you assistence.Dreamer wrote:I'm talking about all the time, if it is confusing for us what about standard users or even novice users?helmut wrote:...but from my point of view this is actually a serious problem, since this is very confusing and people (including me) will not understand.
Right. There might be the advantage "speed", but I think there's too many disadvantages which overweigh.xnview wrote:...The fullscreen from browser or lite fullscreen is better for users that want view only pictures/movies quickly. In 1.74, when you want to view a picture in fulscreen, xnview load picture in a view window, and then show it in fullscreen. Here there is no additional load process.
MMB to go to fullscreen (view & browser) and dbl click to switch between view & browser?Dreamer wrote:No, when "dbl click to go to fullscreen" is disabled it works like that "image" but with LMB dbl click and MMB replaced - and I want just swap these options...
I don't understand why it's confusing. Lite fulscreen is used more often than view fullscreen...It is really confusing, I see that helmut wrote something so I'm gonna check...
There is no disadvantages, you can view quickly your picture...helmut wrote:Right. There might be the advantage "speed", but I think there's too many disadvantages which overweigh.xnview wrote:...The fullscreen from browser or lite fullscreen is better for users that want view only pictures/movies quickly. In 1.74, when you want to view a picture in fulscreen, xnview load picture in a view window, and then show it in fullscreen. Here there is no additional load process.
Is the context menu, keyboard and mouse handling 100% the same as in fullscreen? If so, there's really no disadvantage.xnview wrote:There is no disadvantages, you can view quickly your picture...helmut wrote:Right. There might be the advantage "speed", but I think there's too many disadvantages which overweigh.xnview wrote:...The fullscreen from browser or lite fullscreen is better for users that want view only pictures/movies quickly. In 1.74, when you want to view a picture in fulscreen, xnview load picture in a view window, and then show it in fullscreen. Here there is no additional load process.
