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Dateiformat *.el8

https://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=28089

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Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:24 am
by frank837
Hi,
here is a compressed file

I thank you for your help!!!
Frank

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:58 am
by DOS386
> here is a compressed file

Good. It's NOT a JPEG derivative. Now please display this file on screen 100% with your program, make a screenshot of it, and attach it in PNG format.

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:57 pm
by frank837
Hi,
hier ist der screenshot
Frank

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:30 pm
by XnTriq
We'll have to wait what & see what Pierre says, but I'm afraid this proprietary format is too complex.

Suggested workaround: Download + install SnagIt v7.2.5 (compatibility) and send the EL8 labels from Easy-PhotoPrint EX to SnagIt's virtual printer.
  • Tools » SnagIt Printer Capture Settings... » Settings » Output » File » Properties... » Image File

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:35 am
by DOS386
frank837 wrote:hier ist der screenshot
Very good (why ODT around the PNG?).

So this vvv would be the content of the EL8 file?

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:12 am
by DOS386
XnTriq wrote:this proprietary format is too complex
NO. Got it: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Pixel data is raw $0003'0000 Byte's, 256 x 256 pixels, 24 bpp, bottom-to-top (pirated from BMP "technology"), starts at $0002'2D94, pixel format is RGB ... ToDo: localize the pixel data in the file.

@ frank837 : do all your EL8 files have same size? If not, upload some more of them.

Unfortunately this seems to be a preview only ... the full content comes from other files referenced from this EL8 file ... so one day XNVIEW will be able to display only this preview, but NOT the nice content.

The solution for your problem: use a fake printer driver saving into PNG.

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:45 pm
by XnTriq
DOS386 wrote:
XnTriq wrote:this proprietary format is too complex
NO. Got it: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
DOS386 wrote:Unfortunately this seems to be a preview only ... the full content comes from other files referenced from this EL8 file ... so one day XNVIEW will be able to display only this preview, but NOT the nice content.
That's what I wrote: “I'm afraid [i.e. probably] this proprietary format is too complex.”
The topic starter doesn't want to extract embedded (preview) thumbnails. He asked for “a converter el8 to bmp or similar”.

Alternatives to the already mentioned SnagIt Printer Capture:
  • PDFill: Image Writer
    “Create Image (PNG, JPG, BMP, TIF, GIF) for free with options for resolution, alpha bits, rotation, flip, output, and registry control.”
  • Code Industry: ImagePrinter Free
    “Printing to PDF, JPG, BMP, PNG or TIFF via the virtual image printer”

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:42 pm
by DOS386
XnTriq wrote: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
Why? I did find out the truth :bug:
asked for “a converter el8 to bmp or similar”
Unfortunately this is impossible ... not because "this proprietary format is too complex" ... but because the file does not contain the full pixel data :shock:

So XN will either display and "convert" it like this: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.p ... 30#p111830 or not at all.

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:00 pm
by XnTriq
DOS386 wrote:Unfortunately this is impossible ... not because "this proprietary format is too complex" ... but because the file does not contain the full pixel data :shock:

So XN will either display and "convert" it like this: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.p ... 30#p111830 or not at all.
Similar to HTML/Word/CorelDRAW documents, EL8 labels contain links to external full-res images (which keeps the file size down). If the format specs were publicly available, it wouldn't be “impossible” for a decent parser/converter to retrieve this external data.

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:37 pm
by DOS386
> it wouldn't be “impossible” for a decent parser/converter to retrieve this external data

Theoretically YES, practically NO. Those images are most likely part of the 50 MiB "Canon Easy Photoprint EX" installation, so even with the "decent parser", you couldn't retrieve them if the thing is not installed.

Re: Dateiformat *.el8

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:45 pm
by XnTriq
DOS386 wrote:Theoretically YES, practically NO.
If you say so, sir :mrgreen:
I'm practically done feeding truthers for the day. Solved!

Re: Dateiformat *.el8, final

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:39 pm
by frank837
Hello World,
Thanks to everybody, who participated in this thread.
I was silent, because I wasn't on my desk (and so on), but now I am back.Before, as there seems to be no converter for this funny el8-extension, I printetd my dvd physically and scanned it on the scanner, which came with the printer. Resolution 300DPI works ok for me.
Now I produce the image with the sw, which came withe the printer, produce the disk and print/convert the file to png. That's ok.

@XnTriq: Thank you!

Frank
XnTriq wrote:PDFill: Image Writer
“Create Image (PNG, JPG, BMP, TIF, GIF) for free with options for resolution, alpha bits, rotation, flip, output, and registry control.”

Re: Dateiformat *.el8, final

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:30 pm
by XnTriq
frank837 wrote:@XnTriq: Thank you!
I was about to send you a PM, Frank :-)
Thanks for reporting back!
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