Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:43 am
Thanks to your detailed description I can reproduce the problem. Thanks to your detailed description I can reproduce the problem.XnView Software
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1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
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Thanks to your detailed description I can reproduce the problem.Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:29 am
This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 1.6.2. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:23 pm
Regenerated thumbnails from sRGB and AdobeRGB images using 1.6.2 are now rendered the same, but both are too dull on a wide gamut monitor. So some progress, but still not there yet. I'm away from my main computer until next week, but will retest there with a range of monitor profiles to see if I can work out what's happening.xnview wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:29 am This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 1.6.2. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
My latest test uses a signgle red test patch (RGB = 150,0,0) and I check how it's rendered in various packages
In XnView MP 1.6.2 the thumbnails are rendered as 135,27,16 (too dull) and the full screen image is rendered as 150,1,0 (correct)
In Adobe Bridge the thumbnail is rendered as 150,2,0 (correct)
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:49 pm
NewXnViewFan wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:23 pmRegenerated thumbnails from sRGB and AdobeRGB images using 1.6.2 are now rendered the same, but both are too dull on a wide gamut monitor. So some progress, but still not there yet. I'm away from my main computer until next week, but will retest there with a range of monitor profiles to see if I can work out what's happening.xnview wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:29 am This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 1.6.2. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
My latest test uses a single red test patch (RGB = 150,0,0) and I check how it's rendered in various packages
In XnView MP 1.6.2 the thumbnails are rendered as 135,27,16 (too dull) and the full screen image is rendered as 150,1,0 (correct)
In Adobe Bridge the thumbnail is rendered as 150,2,0 (correct)
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:51 pm
You have not the same in thumbnail & full screen? Even after 'rebuild thumbnails'? No sharpen or gamma in settings>Thumbnail?NewXnViewFan wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:23 pm In XnView MP 1.6.2 the thumbnails are rendered as 135,27,16 (too dull) and the full screen image is rendered as 150,1,0 (correct)
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:02 pm
Yes - rebuilt thumbnails and full screen views are not rendered the same. Full screen is OK, thumbnails are too dull. I have the following settingsxnview wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:51 pmYou have not the same in thumbnail & full screen? Even after 'rebuild thumbnails'? No sharpen or gamma in settings>Thumbnail?NewXnViewFan wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:23 pm In XnView MP 1.6.2 the thumbnails are rendered as 135,27,16 (too dull) and the full screen image is rendered as 150,1,0 (correct)
Thumbnail
>Create High Quality - Yes
>Use embedded - No
>Use alpha channel - No
>Sharpen thumbnail - No
>Use gamma correction - No
General
>ICC>Use ICC profile for monitor - Yes
But it doesn't seem to make any difference what monitor profile I set.
XnView MP 1.6.2 Ventura 13.6.1
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:36 am
could you send me your xnview.ini?
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:48 am
I can't find a file with that name, where is it stored?
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:54 am
Settings>Paths
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:58 am
Thanks. Now sent to contact@xnview.com
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:15 am
I've also emailed a copy of my laptop icc profile in case you need it, and the red test patch images.
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:57 am
NewXnViewFan wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:15 am I've also emailed a copy of my laptop icc profile in case you need it, and the red test patch images.
Thanks to your detailed description I can reproduce the problem.Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:39 pm
This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 1.6.3. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:51 pm
I'm pleased to confirm that the high quality thumbnails generated from Photoshop generated sRGB and AdobeRGB jpgs are now rendered correctly using XnViewMP 1.6.3 on a wide gamut iMac display on MacOS 13.6.1. Excellent THANKS!!xnview wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:39 pm This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 1.6.3. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
I'm still seeing some issues with the thumbnails generated for my Lumix RAW files, but I need to investigate this further as that maybe due to my in camera jpg settings. I'll also check whether it happens with any other RAW file formats (Canon and Sony). I'll report back if I find a problem.
Re: 1.6.1: Thumbnail does not use ICC
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 am
Further tests show that although the problem is fixed for the thumbnails of AdobeRGB and sRGB jpgs created by Photoshop, the problem remains for AdobeRGB jpgs created in camera which are rendered too dull. Looking at the EXIF data for the files, the difference seems to be that XnViewMP is working correctly when the jpg contains an embedded AdobeRGB profile (as created by PS), but not when the profile isn't embedded (as created by most cameras which only set flags to denote color space). See color space info on this page https://exiftool.org/TagNames/EXIF.html
Let me know if you need me to post example files.
Let me know if you need me to post example files.