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'Batch processing' rather than 'Batch convert'?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:01 pm
by Danny
It can do so much more than just convert images, shouldn't it be called batch processing instead?
Re: Batch convert
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:16 am
by xnview
Danny wrote:It can do so much more than just convert images, shouldn't it be called batch processing instead?
Yes, who agree with that?
I, indeed
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:25 am
by Clo
Pierre
Hello !
• I agree, indeed.
- In French, I'ld suggest the similar as : “Traitement¦s en séquence”.
KR
Claude
Clo
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:10 pm
by JohnFredC
This very thing was mentioned in another topic earlier this year, but I can't find the topic.
Makes sense to me!
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:26 pm
by helmut
It's true that the Batch function can do much more than just simple format conversions. But isn't Batch conversion what people know and are looking for?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:21 pm
by Dreamer
The name was a problem when I (or someone else) have suggested to add the JPEG and other lossless transformations, so if changing of name would help to add these options to Batch Convert/Processing, I agree.
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:30 pm
by XnTriq
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:57 pm
by Troken
helmut wrote:It's true that the Batch function can do much more than just simple format conversions. But isn't Batch conversion what people know and are looking for?
Helmuts got a point, though I personally favor "processing".
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:31 pm
by JohnFredC
helmut wrote:It's true that the Batch function can do much more than just simple format conversions. But isn't Batch conversion what people know and are looking for?
My perspective
was:
- 1. Conversion is an incomplete term for the functionality offered by the existing menu item.
2. "Conversion" IS a (manner of) transformation. (...or is it? See below!)
3. The menu item's position won't change.
4. Existing users will recover quickly.
5. New users won't be confused by the inaccurate term "Conversion", so perhaps will be aware of the existence of the batch "Transformation" dialog sooner than they would otherwise.
The only objection I can think of is that (technically) "Conversion" is about the
file format and "Transformation" is about the
image content (independent of file format).
From that perspective it would be better to separate the two functions and put Batch Convert under the File menu with its own conversion-only dialog. But then Batch Rename should go into the file menu, too.
But both of those suggestions encounter Helmut's objection.
Maybe a "Master" batch dialog with tabs for "Conversion", "Renaming", and "Transformation" might be applicable. Then there could be
three menu items, each opening the same dialog but at a
different tab. Rename and Conversion in the File Menu, Transformation in the Tools menu.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:35 pm
by Dreamer
JohnFredC wrote:Maybe a "Master" batch dialog with tabs for "Conversion", "Renaming", and "Transformation" might be applicable. Then there could be three menu items, each opening the same dialog but at a different tab. Rename and Conversion in the File Menu, Transformation in the Tools menu.
Yes, that's exactly the same as in my suggestion
here (without reply). Then we might use the active tab as title. Each tab would have its own menu item (in the proper section), keyboard shortcut and perhaps also toolbar button.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:03 pm
by helmut
JohnFredC wrote:But both of those suggestions encounter Helmut's objection.
It feels good to be heard, but don't take my opinion for too serious.
Actually I like the idea of combining those three batch "thingies" while keeping them separately available and accessible via individual menu items. This will make things more flexible while providing the user an interface he/she is familiar with and will understand.
And I also like the idea of a tab "Input". This tab could be used whenever a function needs input files, e.g. Create Webpage, Create contact sheet, and so on. See discussion in topic
'Unified way for creating file list'.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:50 pm
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:And I also like the idea of a tab "Input". This tab could be used whenever a function needs input files, e.g. Create Webpage, Create contact sheet, and so on. See discussion in topic
'Unified way for creating file list'.
Yes, but Transformations/Convert and Rename should be in the same dialog, as two tabs, so it would be possible to convert and rename images at once. Continue
here if you like this idea.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:21 pm
by helmut
Dreamer wrote:... Continue
here if you like this idea.
Right, here we should continue discussion about the naming and in the other topic about the screen design (both naming and screen design are very related, though).