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Why not ?

Post by Clo » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:17 am

:arrow: marsh

:) Hello B. !

• As soon as we'ld have an internal command to activate such a feature, short cuts could be indeed defined and used…
- I didn't mark any on the above mock up because :
1. The hotkeys don't work in the Options pages (an old issue, reported for ages…)
2. The position-buttons are too small (they are the existing ones for the canevas resizing, for instance).
Larger ones could remind both the local hotkeys and the direct short cuts, like below :

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- It's still the global issue :  Another view of the commands management is needed, like Paul and I repeat endlessly.

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That's THE question !

Post by Clo » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:43 am

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:) Again…

• Thank you for your appreciation, “Ça ravigote !”
…By that I mean as a separate popup dialog attached to a button or menu item, perhaps.
• Nothing against, there are pros and cons in the two cases :

- In the normal “Zoom” options seems natural and logical, and should be seen by more users…
- As a standalone dialogue (like “Grid”) saves the room in the general options, but adds fat in a menu, necessarily…

• Like I say above to marsh, we need a decent global management of ALL commands “À la TC”,
then to know whether we will use a menu item or a button is unimportant, since each user can set that s¦he prefers…
Only the command is important, and the means allowing each user to set it at will, according to her¦his needs…
(…There are basic options that one changes rarely, and dynamic (?) options that one may change many times during an XnView session. Which are which?)
• “Dynamic” sounds correct for me… IMHO, commands easily available from a "Commands Manager",
better buttons features (that comes…slowly !) and flexible configurable menus could erase the question ;)

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Post by Peter2 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:34 am

Hello

I'm happy that the discussion makes a development to the suggestion I made.

One comment to Clos dialogue-suggestion:
I agree with John that the command (or the configuration) should be very "ad hoc" / "dynamic to reach".

I'm looking forward for further discussion.

Best regards.

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The command first !

Post by Clo » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:22 pm

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:) Hello Peter !

• I tried to draw a dialogue (or part of an option-page) which matches your needs, and also useful for others;
i.e. I would use that when viewing loooong bitmaps for tool-bars I use to draw. For that, I'ld set "Centre" as the position…

• It's useless to discuss how to place the Options now, since at least, today we can set a button to call the function.
Like I said above, only the command is important, the rest doesn't matter a lot…
- For instance, I have a button to call the grid, because I don't need to change it frequently, even if it's set in a menu…

• All TC users (are you one ?) get that I try to explain about the commands management…
- Configurable menus (discussed hardly already…) and configurable short cuts are indeed missing in the XnView !
- Wheather we'ld have that, 90% of such problems could be solved… and the Keys Knights and others would be happy !

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Post by JohnFredC » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:42 am

Maybe we have "over-thought" the interface to "Lock Zoom & Lock Position".

Perhaps the best approach would be to set position and zoom "by example".

The user would simply "demonstrate" location and zoom level on an image by panning and zooming. Then activate a "lock and keep for next image" via button or menu item.

An additional small dialog to name, save, and restore the relative position and zoom level would be icing on the cake.
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Post by Peter2 » Sun May 04, 2008 8:39 pm

Peter2; April 3, 2008 wrote:Hello Pierre

some ideas for this problem?

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Hello Pierre
some chances for a realization?

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