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1.93.6 English Translation / List of new strings

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:37 pm
by xnview
Here is the new strings:

#define TXT_NviewMenu_RemoveAlpha "Remove alpha channel"
#define TXT_Option_Spacing_Between_Labels "Spacing between labels"
#define TXT_Option_Alignment "Alignment"
#define TXT_Option_Check_Update "Check update"
#define TXT_Ignore_Alpha_Channel "Ignore alpha channel"

#define TXT_Adjust_Keep_Prev_Values "Retain values between sessions"

#define TXT_String_Daily "Daily"
#define TXT_String_Weekly "Weekly"
#define TXT_String_Monthly "Monthly"

#define TXT_Replace_Color "Replace color"

In XnViewShell.lng, new ID are:
205=Use XnView to open picture
251=Custom thumbnail size
252=Do you want to upload your files on the public server ImageShack?
253=Don't ask again

161=Custom
162=Send to ImageShack

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:42 pm
by Dreamer
Thank you, Pierre, there are many new features/changes/fixes for me in this new version.

Minor suggestion for SE:

252=Do you want to upload your files on the public server ImageShack?

--->>>

252=Do you want to upload your file(s) on the public server ImageShack?

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:06 pm
by helmut
Thanks Pierre, for the 1.93.6. :-)

A minor issue:
Currently it says: #define TXT_Adjust_Keep_Prev_Values "Retain values between sessions"
In some dialogs like "Image > Adjust > Levels..." the same functionality is called differently: "Keep values for next time"
Would be good if this could be unified.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:04 am
by xnview
helmut wrote:Thanks Pierre, for the 1.93.6. :-)

A minor issue:
Currently it says: #define TXT_Adjust_Keep_Prev_Values "Retain values between sessions"
In some dialogs like "Image > Adjust > Levels..." the same functionality is called differently: "Keep values for next time"
Would be good if this could be unified.
Which is best?

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:40 pm
by JohnFredC
"Keep values for next time" is ambiguous. What is meant by "next time"?

"Retain values between sessions" could be un-ambiguous if reworded to... "Retain values between XnView sessions"

But neither is quite satisfactory by itself. There are two conditions that may pertain:
  • 1. Whether the values are maintained within this XnView session

    2. Whether the values are maintained for the next XnView session
#1 is what I would call a "dynamic" option, one that might be changed frequently by the user within the current XnView session. This is best displayed in and controlled by the individual settings dialog(s).

#2 might be termed a "static" or "basic" option. This might best be displayed and controlled by the Options dialog (General page, perhaps?) and applied to all dynamic settings simultaneously.

A method is needed for the user to indicate what settings values in the dialog(s) are the default ones. Currently XnView assumes that "0" adjustments are the defaults...

A separate forum thread where we discuss XnView "terminology" might be useful, too.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:23 am
by xnview
Perhaps a better solution will be to have a 'set as default values' button instead of this checkbox

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:58 am
by xnview
Not a good idea??

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:47 am
by JohnFredC
Hi Pierre

(Sorry, very busy, about to be a grandfather!)
Perhaps a better solution will be to have a 'set as default values' button instead of this checkbox
Yes, I think that would work fine. Some way to "reset to factory defaults " also would be useful.

Buttons becoming too verbose

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:21 pm
by marsh
The new function has arrived in dialogs like:
Adjust Hue/Lightness/Saturation

v.1.93.6 Text:
Default values
Previous values

v.1.93.6 B-2 Text:
Factory values
Set as default values
Default values

I don't think simple English commands require more explanation on button:
Zero
Set as default
Default

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:41 pm
by Troken
JohnFredC wrote:Hi Pierre

(Sorry, very busy, about to be a grandfather!)
Perhaps a better solution will be to have a 'set as default values' button instead of this checkbox
Yes, I think that would work fine. Some way to "reset to factory defaults " also would be useful.
Hm... I don't understand "reset to factory defaults", sounds very industrial. I understand the need of a "reset" but don't like the phrase "factory defaults". "Reset to original defaults" would be ok, wouldn't it?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:28 pm
by helmut
Troken wrote:Hm... I don't understand "reset to factory defaults", sounds very industrial. I understand the need of a "reset" but don't like the phrase "factory defaults". "Reset to original defaults" would be ok, wouldn't it?
+1. "Factory defaults" sounds cumbersome and like a complete reset. Why not just: "Reset to default"? Or perhaps even better: a (small) graphical button with a tooltip.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:22 pm
by xnview
but 'reset to default' and 'set as default' are almost similar as term, no?

Re: Buttons becoming too verbose

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:42 pm
by oops66
marsh wrote:The new function has arrived in dialogs like:
Adjust Hue/Lightness/Saturation
...
Zero
Set as default
Default
Why not :
Default Values
save Custom
Custom Values
?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:46 pm
by Troken
xnview wrote:but 'reset to default' and 'set as default' are almost similar as term, no?
So you want to distinguish between a complete-original-factory-setting-default and a user-customized-"own"-default?

1. Reset to XnView default
2. Set (custom) default

But I'd like to ask you native english speaking users out there, what you consider appropriate phrases. Apart from "Factory default" ;)

Actually "Factory default" is very descriptive, but there's something with it that doesn't sound suitable for a computer program.

Re: Buttons becoming too verbose

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:10 pm
by Dreamer
oops66 wrote:Why not :
Default Values
save Custom
Custom Values
?
I like this, perhaps with one change:

Save as Custom ?