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horrible toolbar icon shadow
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:42 am
by anonymous_user
I appended some commands to the toolbar but when I hover my cursor over them (custom icon) they have an ugly shadow:
Why is this?
Size ?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:26 am
by Clo
anonymous_user

Hello !
• Hm… Maybe they are not the same size than the rest of the skin you're using ?
- Please, could you show a longer part of that tool-bar ?
• I use always my own skins with matching extra *.ICO, I never saw such an issue…

KR
Claude
clo
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:28 pm
by anonymous_user
This is my entire browser toolbar:
And I am using the correct size (24px).
Maybe its because the normal toolbar is bmp but the new icons are ico?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:32 pm
by xnview
Please send me the .ico to check?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:06 pm
by anonymous_user
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:33 pm
by helmut
As one can see the black, ugly part is the shadow. The other icons all have a shadow, too, but it's just a faint shadow.
Perhaps a problem with alpha channel or colour conversion?
OS ?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:43 pm
by Clo
anonymous_user

Hello !
• *.ICO (single format, not multipage) is supported for extra commands, I use them without any problem, like said above…
• Your icons look quite normal, I checked in XnView and in GFIE Pro (Icon editor).
• What occurs when there is no extra-icon on a tool-bar ? Do you get that unwanted shade ? Also, what with other skin¦s ?
• Which OS are you running ? Here Win XP-Pro SP1 (Fr)

KR
Claude
Clo
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:47 pm
by anonymous_user
helmut wrote:The other icons all have a shadow, too, but it's just a faint shadow.
Correct.
helmut wrote:Perhaps a problem with alpha channel or colour conversion?
Maybe. I decided to save the icons as True Color without alpha channel and they no longer have the ugly shadow. The icons look nicer with alpha channel though
Clo wrote:• What occurs when no extra-icon is on a tool-bar ? Do you get that unwanted shade ? Also, what with other skin¦s ?
I just happens with the custom icons not the skin.
Clo wrote:• Which OS are you running ? Here Win XP-Pro SP1 (Fr)
Vista SP1 English
Vista bad koke ?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:28 pm
by Clo
anonymous_user

Again…
• That sounds like an annoyance with Vista (only) in such a situation…
• A while ago, when we had some snags with extra-icons -nicely fixed now - I suggested to
Pierre
that the separate *.BMP files be supported also as extra “icons”.
- I think that (maybe) it could help in the case, since the skin bitmap works fine…
Anyway, it's worth a try if supported later…
• Another test to perform : Build a small 32-bit ICL with your extra-icons, and use it instead of separate files…

KR
Claude
Clo
OUPS ! Similar !
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:28 pm
by Clo
anonymous_user

Again-again…
• I tested further using an icon having a drop-shadow and a transparent BG (that I use rarely, so I missed this).
• At left hand, the icon itself (as a PNG here, but same look), at right hand,
how it looks in the tool bar when hovered by the mouse :


.
• There is a difference, though : Here, the icon displays always the original drop-shadow as “solid”, even when
not hovered !
• Hence, there is a bug really, not obvious to fix alright for all OSs…:?
Note : That occurs in all cases, no matter if 16 or 32-bit screen display is set.

KR
Claude
Clo
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:06 am
by anonymous_user
Ok I tried using GFIE Pro to build the icl but now its worse.
The normal icon is "fuzzy" and the hovered icon still has the shadow.
Oh well. For now Ill just use nonalpha icons.
Functions calls… ?
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:27 am
by Clo
anonymous_user

Well, a worse result from an ICL is not so suprising : To fix
serious issues in the display of custom non-standard sizes,
I assume that
Pierre had to use a certain function call which displays these icons correctly, size and motif (it does)…
- From an ICL, I guess he uses necessarily an "ExtractIcon" function or so (less good in the case).
• To sum up the issue :
1. Under XP, the *.ICO 32 BPP having a drop-shadow doesn't display that shadow normally, but as a solid dark area,
even "on idle" (not hovered).
2. Under Vista, the (same¦similar) icon shows the drop-shadow alright on idle,
but also as a solid dark area when hovered.
- Obviously, the Alpha channel support is lame¦missing in that display…

KR
Claude
Clo
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:50 pm
by ouistiti
Clo
I confirm !
Paul
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:20 am
by xnview
The icon package is no more available!
No matter---
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:53 pm
by Clo
Pierre

Hello !
• The two original icons for tests are available as a RAR archive
HERE.
- BTW, that doesn't matter a lot, the issue occurs with any 32 BPP *.ICO you add in the tool-bar, like I showed above…
- You could try also my test-skin I sent you a while ago…

KR
Claude
Clo