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EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:15 pm
by Hasan
Now one more thing please :D. I generated two images from one .eps file, one with xnview and other with Paint Shop Pro. The image generated by xnview is greater in file size (88 KB) than generated by PSP (64 KB). Image quality is almost alike.

Can you suggest anything to reduce file size of generated images ??? you know its count in bandwidth limits :) Thanks


Hasan Ali

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Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:01 am
by xnview
Hasan wrote:Now one more thing please :D. I generated two images from one .eps file, one with xnview and other with Paint Shop Pro. The image generated by xnview is greater in file size (88 KB) than generated by PSP (64 KB). Image quality is almost alike.

Can you suggest anything to reduce file size of generated images ??? you know its count in bandwidth limits :) Thanks
Which format do you use for output?

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:37 pm
by Hasan
Hi :)

I used GIF for output format. (256 colors, non-interlace, non-transparent) I'm also displaying images here for quick reference :) This is an article in our sweet language URDU :)

Image generated by Xnview

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Image generated by PSP 8.0

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xnview wrote:
Hasan wrote:Now one more thing please :D. I generated two images from one .eps file, one with xnview and other with Paint Shop Pro. The image generated by xnview is greater in file size (88 KB) than generated by PSP (64 KB). Image quality is almost alike.

Can you suggest anything to reduce file size of generated images ??? you know its count in bandwidth limits :) Thanks
Which format do you use for output?

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:46 pm
by helmut
Hasan wrote:Hi :)

I used GIF for output format. (256 colors, non-interlace, non-transparent) I'm also displaying images here for quick reference :) This is an article in our sweet language URDU :)
Thanks for the sample images. Actually I have a bit strange feeling having images with texts in this newsgroup which I (and other people) cannot read. I'm not "Anti-URDU", but I've decided to remove your images. I hope you understand.

Perhaps you can use sample images with text written in French, English, or German. Thank you!

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:13 pm
by Hasan
Hi!

Yeah I can understand that :)

I'm reposting images for your review and analysis.

Image generated by xnview
Image

Image generated by PSP 8.0
Image
helmut wrote:Thanks for the sample images. Actually I have a bit strange feeling having images with texts in this newsgroup which I (and other people) cannot read. I'm not "Anti-URDU", but I've decided to remove your images. I hope you understand.

Perhaps you can use sample images with text written in French, English, or German. Thank you!

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:56 pm
by helmut
Hasan wrote:...
Yeah I can understand that
Thank you for providing other examples ;-)

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:24 am
by Hasan
Thanks ok dear!

But where is your analysis and tip to reduce file size ? I'm waiting for it :D Plzzzzzzzz

Hasan Ali
helmut wrote:
Hasan wrote:...
Yeah I can understand that
Thank you for providing other examples ;-)

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:46 am
by helmut
Hasan wrote:But where is your analysis and tip to reduce file size ? I'm waiting for it
Please give people some time to answer.

I've looked into the two images that you have provided:

Image width & height
First I compared image size (dimensions): Both images have about the same dimensions. So this cannot be the reason.

Numbers of colours used
Second I looked into the numbers of colours in the colour palette. Here is a difference: XnView uses 39 colours, whereas PSP uses only 6 grey tones.

I wanted to find out, whether the different numbers of colours is the reason and reduced the number of colours in the XnView image from 39 to 8. Then I saved the image, again. The file size went down to 77kB, which is about the same as the PSP image.

Resampling
There's still a difference of 4kBytes, but that's not much and can be explained by different resampling algorithms. When comparing the images' contents and zooming in, one can see that the images differ.

Actually, the PSP image looks a bit frayed, there is some sort of dithering which can be seen when zooming letters "l', 'p' or 'd' for example.

Re: EPS file size: XnView vs. PSP

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:45 pm
by Hasan
helmut wrote: Please give people some time to answer.
:D Sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
helmut wrote: I've looked into the two images that you have provided:

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Thankyou very much :). I will experiment by reducing colors usage :)

Hasan Ali