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RC2: Reorder menu "View > View as"
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:08 pm
by helmut
We have various views: Details, Icons, Thumbnails & Details, and so on. I wonder whether the current order is good.
I think it would be more intuitive to have the following order:
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Details
Icons
List
Especially when toggling through the views using F8 (and Shift-F8 ?), a good order will be helpful.
Re: RC2: Reorder menu "View > View as"
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:32 pm
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:Especially when toggling through the views using F8 (and Shift-F8 ?), a good order will be helpful.
Just a little correction - F9.
helmut wrote:...a good order will be helpful.
Yes but not enough I think, because you must go also back, Shift-F9 would be intuitive but not easy to use.
I suggest this option (with different order too, but order is not really important):
Switch between these views with F9:
[x] Thumbnails
[x] Details
[x] Thumbnails & Details
[x] Icons
[x] List
And maybe also Switch between these views with F10:
[x] Thumbnails
[x] Details
[x] Thumbnails & Details
[x] Icons
[x] List
Most users never use some views.
There will be many posibilities with these options.
Re: RC2: Reorder menu "View > View as"
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:07 am
by helmut
Dreamer wrote:I suggest this option (with different order too, but order is not really important):
Switch between these views with F9:
[x] Thumbnails
[x] Details
[x] Thumbnails & Details
[x] Icons
[x] List
And maybe also Switch between these views with F10:
[x] Thumbnails
[x] Details
[x] Thumbnails & Details
[x] Icons
[x] List
Most users never use some views.
There will be many posibilities with these options.
What's the difference between F9 and F10, then?
Above you're drafting the "fully featured" options, which would make this really flexible. But I wonder whether there is a real need for this. I suggest to see how we go with the toggling with the function keys and then look into this again before the next major release.
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:38 am
by Guest
or using Windows order (plus replacing Tiles with T&D), as I believe most Windows users are used to it already.
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Icons
List
Details
Re: RC2: Reorder menu "View > View as"
Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 3:27 pm
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:Above you're drafting the "fully featured" options, which would make this really flexible. But I wonder whether there is a real need for this. I suggest to see how we go with the toggling with the function keys and then look into this again before the next major release.
Reason why I want answer now is below:
Another idea (to save space in options dialog) with more possibilities:
Code: Select all
Switch between these views with:
F9 F10 Move
[x] [x] [*] Thumbnails
[x] [x] [*] Details
[x] [x] [*] Thumbnails & Details
[x] [x] [*] Icons
[x] [x] [*] List
* = some "move up & down" button or [1st-5th] number, any ideas are welcomed...
Some examples:
- you could switch between 'Thumbnails' and 'Details' views with F9 and between all views with F10
- you could switch to 'Thumbnails' with F9 and to 'Details' with F10
(or different / custom...)
- you could switch between 'Thumbnails' and 'Details' views with F9 and between 'Thumbnails' and 'Thumbnails & Details' with F10
(or different / custom...)
...
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:20 am
by Olivier_G
Wow. I see that you have put a lot of thinking into this feature...
Dreamer: your last proposal is great, but the 2 full featured F9/F10 setup might look overwhelming for most users.
The majority will probably select views through the menu, some will actually use the F9 key to move through all views to get the one they want and few will actually setup everything to their liking. Moreover, I suspect those 'few' to stick to 2 (or 3) views only.
It might be better to keep only 1 switching key (F9) with setup possibilities (default=all), with the usual shift for reverse order => the demanding 'geek' will be able to setup and move quickly between their favorite views with 1 key (+it's much easier to remember only 1 order instead of 2) and select their hardly used ones with the Menu.
But that's only my opinion...
Olivier
PS: I am impressed with the work done and the activity in the forum right now. Wow - bis...
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 10:26 am
by Dreamer
Olivier,
Thanks for your support
. Read my post above, my first reply, there is:
"...And
maybe also Switch between these views with F10: ..."
...so F10 is not so important (but might be useful).
Most (or all) users never use all views, so custom views at least for F9 would be very useful, I think.
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 10:37 am
by helmut
Dreamer et al,
as written above, I think your solution is good. But I still think that it's oversized at the moment.
There's really important issues that should be handled, first: E.g. at the moment you can add programs to the "Open with" menu, but you can never remove single items, rename or reorder them. Having excellent options for one thing but very basic or no options for another is not so good and makes a software unbalanced. So I think we should have your suggestioin in mind for a future release (near future, not far future
).
Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:07 pm
by Dreamer
OK
Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:54 pm
by xnview
So :
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Details
Icons
List
Or
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Icons
List
Details
??
Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:58 pm
by ckit
Thats a tough decision, I would have picked the first one but the second one is more logical in some ways
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:07 pm
by helmut
Now that I check in RC3, I see that the second order
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Icons
List
Details
has been implemented.
It's not really bad, but from my point of view the first order (see Pierre's post above) is more logical: Similar views are next to each other (Thumbnails, Thumbnails & Details, Details).
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:11 pm
by xnview
helmut wrote:Now that I check in RC3, I see that the second order
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Icons
List
Details
has been implemented.
It's not really bad, but from my point of view the first order (see Pierre's post above) is more logical: Similar views are next to each other (Thumbnails, Thumbnails & Details, Details).
Hum, i think that the second is more logical
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:16 pm
by helmut
xnview wrote:helmut wrote:Now that I check in RC3, I see that the second order
Thumbnails
Thumbnails & Details
Icons
List
Details
has been implemented.
It's not really bad, but from my point of view the first order (see Pierre's post above) is more logical: Similar views are next to each other (Thumbnails, Thumbnails & Details, Details).
Hum, i think that the second is more logical
O.k. The way it is now is close to MS Explorer. I'll close this one.