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RC2: Thumbnail cache

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:33 pm
by Danny
Does it even work? It feels like there's no speed difference in viewing a folders content already cached or not. It seems to recreate the thumbs all the time. It becomes most apparent when viewing folders with lots of movie files in them.

edit: Same thing with viewing images. There are those two options called "Read one image ahead" and "Keep current image in cache". They don't seem to work either. There's no difference in image display speed. It takes seconds for 300kB JPGs to load, whereas ACDSee for example only needs a fracture of a second (like 0.3 seconds). I almost can't spin my mousewheel that quick.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:18 am
by OL
Thumb caching works for me. Read ahead and keep current don't work in fullscreen-lite mode otherwise they do.
I have no idea what to suggest, what does your options>cache pannel look like?

Re: RC2: Thumbnail cache

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:15 am
by helmut
Danny wrote:Does it even work? It feels like there's no speed difference in viewing a folders content already cached or not. It seems to recreate the thumbs all the time. It becomes most apparent when viewing folders with lots of movie files in them. ...
In most cases, caching really speeds up things a lot.

But:
A while back I've done some testing and found some problems in caching. Especially if you have large thumbnails (e.g. 200x200 pixel, 300 images per folder), writing and reading the cache can slow down things. Also, if cache was not fully built up (means that all thumbnails in a folder have been created), I had the feeling that caching does not work. Perhaps some people can check this out and verify.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:12 am
by OL
Helmut, I can partially confirm your testings, although we'd need steps to consistently reproduce. *sometimes*, in v1.74, when switching from a cached folder to another cached folder via folder tree, thumbnails were indeed recreated. I haven't yet reproduced in both RC, maybe Pierre did fix it when he improved the cache code to speed startup.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 1:46 pm
by Danny
I think i've found the bugs.

Regarding the thumbnails: It doesn't even save thumbnails made from movie files at all!
I tried it on a folder with only movies in them. When browsing it in thumbnail mode it does create thumbnails. But, if i have a look at the cache options, i can see that there are 0 thumbnails being cached for that folder. :bug:

On the other problem: It takes forever to switch from one image to the other in fullscreen view. :bug:
In the normal view mode (the one with menus still showing) it works quickly. But also only in the direction you came from. So it also seems that the "cache behind" function is broken. Possible :bug:

P.S.: What is "fullscreen-lite mode" anyway :?:

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 10:06 pm
by OL
Danny wrote:Regarding the thumbnails: It doesn't even save thumbnails made from movie files at all!
I confirm. Also, thumbnails for .wmv aren't even created for me.
Danny wrote:On the other problem: It takes forever to switch from one image to the other in fullscreen view. :bug:
read ahead/keep current doesn't seem to work in fullscreen lite mode, It's already been discussed. Another problem being that checking "Dbl-click to view in fullscreen" in options actually enable fullscreen-lite instead of normal fullscreen. middle-clicking will get you back to browser instead of windowed mode with view toolbar, a bit annoying IMO.
Danny wrote:P.S.: What is "fullscreen-lite mode" anyway?
this is the full (or expanded) preview mode, basically you'll just get full screen view without viewer capabilities. Honnestly I'm not sure about its usefulness, compared to the real fullscreen.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 4:16 pm
by Danny
OL wrote:
Danny wrote:P.S.: What is "fullscreen-lite mode" anyway?
this is the full (or expanded) preview mode, basically you'll just get full screen view without viewer capabilities. Honnestly I'm not sure about its usefulness, compared to the real fullscreen.
"Real fullscreen"? Fullscreen to me is exactly this: The image being displayed on the full screen and nothing else (like controls and menus). It's the only view mode i use actually. The other mode isn't really fullscreen. It's what ACDSee calls "view".

Anyway, can i get an official confirmation on the bug with movie thumbnail caching?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 6:43 pm
by Olive
Both fullscreen modes display images on the full screen. Lite is supposed to load faster but toolbar is disabled (middle-clicking will get you back to browser instead of windowed viewer).

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:24 pm
by helmut
Danny writes:
Topic can be moved to "Solved problems" since the other problem mentioned in there is already being discussed in another thread.