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RC3: Icon for embedded thumbnail

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:53 pm
by xnview
When XnView use embedded thumbnail from JPEG file, perhaps it's better to add an icon for that (like rotation, exif, iptc)
What do you think?

Good !

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:16 pm
by Clo
:) Yes, I guess it should be very useful to know when such a thumbnail exists in a JPEG… However, this requests a symbol which be not language-dependant…
• What about something like this ? Home-made and free…

:mrgreen: K R
Claude
Clo

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:36 pm
by Olive
I agree it may be useful to know whether a pic has an embedded thumbnail or not.
Clo's icon is cool but I'd prefer a text (EMBED?) rather than a graphic, or a black and white one, it'd need to be consistent with the other existing icons, IMHO.

Symbol is better

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:50 pm
by Clo
>> Olive

:) Hi!
- A text is precisely that I would wish to avoid, since many users couln't understand "Embed" or else; indeed, I can, but the whole World don't speak English :P
A symbolic icon could be B & W, but less explicit, though…

[OT] You might set an avatar to complement mine since in the comic strip "Olive" is the wife of my sailor! :D [/OT]

:mrgreen: K R
Claude
Clo

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:05 pm
by Lesmo16
Actually you have the icon [EXIF].

Embedded thumbnails are only possible in an EXIF set.

:idea: So what about [EXIF+] for JPEGs with embedded thumbnails?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:21 pm
by helmut
Lesmo16 wrote:Actually you have the icon [EXIF].

Embedded thumbnails are only possible in an EXIF set.
Didn't know until now.
Lesmo16 wrote::idea: So what about [EXIF+] for JPEGs with embedded thumbnails?
The [EXIF] is a bitmap, so in theory anything is possible, there. But I prefered an extra symbol. (Otherwise the auto-rotation symbol could go to [EXIF], too).

Perhaps a small rectangle in a large rectangle would be intuitive. If I find the time I'll make a draft design.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:44 pm
by Olive
I agree, the icon we need is intuitive and consistent with the current iconset: Image

PS. Yes Clo I might get an Olive avatar :d

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:24 am
by Lesmo16
Yes, in any case they should be intuitive and consistent!

Most of time I'm using relative small thumbnails and IMO the info icons shouldn't get to big in relation to the thumbnail itself.
Imagine thumbnails with EXIF, IPTC, auto rotation and embedded thumbnails (and what ever more will be possible).

So I like to suggest, that all icons are squared like the actual arrow icons.

[E] - EXIF
- IPTC
[T] - embedded thumbnails

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:20 pm
by Hacker
How about a simple dot inside a square?

Roman

Icon for embedded thumbnail

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:19 pm
by Mike2005
Lesmo16 wrote:Embedded thumbnails are only possible in an EXIF set.
Thumbnails can also be embedded in the JFXX segment of a JPEG file.

I think too a simple squared "T" (or perhaps "THM" like the file extension for thumbnail files of Canon Cams) would do it best.

Mike

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:15 pm
by xnview
So [T], [THM] or square dot?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:21 pm
by Lesmo16
xnview wrote:So [T], [THM] or square dot?
If you will stay with [EXIF] and [IPTC], then the sqare dot for embedded thumbnails.

If you will change to [E] and , then [T] for embedded thumbnails (that's consistent IMO).

Sample design

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:29 pm
by helmut
Below please find a sample what an icon for embedded thumbnail could look like. Eeach of the thumbnails below has a different icon for the embedded thumbnails.

Image

For discussion I propose to use numbers:
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8

My favourite is 7.

Comments or other sample drafts are welcome.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:46 pm
by Hacker
From these choices, I also vote for 7.

Could you please draw one similar to 7, but with the small rectangle centered? Just to see how it looks.

TIA
Roman

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:37 am
by Lesmo16
Sample 5 is my favourite ...
... because the small thumbnail is not squared (digicam pics are also not squared).