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IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:30 pm
by HuGVM
High XnView Team,
I'm new in this forum and first of all I want to send my congratulations on the excellent features of XnView to all contributors.
I want to use IPTC and XMP priminarly to manage pictures. For this I want to ask for help for the following issues:

1)
So far I have got familiar with the IPTC features for the jpg data files. Unfortunately at my installation I cannot use IPTC with Tiff files. After entering IPTC data and using the write button the data are no more available. I remember that I was able to enter and store IPTC data at a XnView installation at a friend of mine. What could be the reason for the IPTC/Tiff isue at my installation (1.97.8 Sep 20 2010).

2)
For me it would be very helpfull to have predefined keywords and categories. In the IPTC menue I can see fields to select predefined keywords and even a button called "Load keywords". How can I define standard keywords and categories that will be selectable from a list in the IPTC keywords and category folders. How can I define a file containing keywords that will be loadable with the "Load keywords" button.

3)
Ist there any compact description available where I can find more about IPTC and XMP in general and how to use IPTC/XMP in XnView.

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:33 pm
by xnview
HuGVM wrote: 1)
So far I have got familiar with the IPTC features for the jpg data files. Unfortunately at my installation I cannot use IPTC with Tiff files. After entering IPTC data and using the write button the data are no more available. I remember that I was able to enter and store IPTC data at a XnView installation at a friend of mine. What could be the reason for the IPTC/Tiff isue at my installation (1.97.8 Sep 20 2010).
Could you send me a TIFF file that you use?
2)
For me it would be very helpfull to have predefined keywords and categories. In the IPTC menue I can see fields to select predefined keywords and even a button called "Load keywords". How can I define standard keywords and categories that will be selectable from a list in the IPTC keywords and category folders. How can I define a file containing keywords that will be loadable with the "Load keywords" button.
You can edit the IPTC.def in folder where XnView save settings...
3)
Ist there any compact description available where I can find more about IPTC and XMP in general and how to use IPTC/XMP in XnView.
sorry, only on the forum

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:26 pm
by HuGVM
Pierre,
thank you for your response.
Here is a tiff-image with some IPTC data, which have been entered using xnview at a PC of a colleague. This colleague told me that on his PC suddenly IPTC also does not work any more with tiff-images.

[img]C:\Dokumente%20und%20Einstellungen\Harry\DvHarry\HuGV\Bilder\Bilder%20aus%20Kreisarchiv\Hartheim\Hartheim002.tif[/img]

I hope I succeeded in adding the tiff image - (sorry I am not an experienced user of forums).
Otherwise please tell me how I can send you a picture file.

Best regards
Harald

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:07 pm
by xnview
Sorry, the tiff was not transfered... You can use service like yousendit

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:45 am
by HuGVM
Correction maybe https was not good
Pierre
sorry for this inconvenience - thanks for the hint with sendit.
Here a new attempt: Image
I hope this works.
Regards Harald

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:34 pm
by xnview
No sorry, not received...

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:26 pm
by HuGVM
New attempt Link to tiff-file:
https://www.yousendit.com/dl?phi_action ... ll-c-19072
Regards Harald

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:52 pm
by xnview
ok, i have it.
So you edit IPTC, and in the browser you have no IPTC tab??

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:23 pm
by HuGVM
On the PC currently in use - After editing IPTC data and clicking the write button, the IPTC data are no more visible and no IPTC tab appears. See also 1) at my original posting. IPTC data have been entered on a different PC using xnview after scanning the images. This data seem to be available anywhere under cover as I can identify this IPTC data using PhotoShop!?
Regards Harald

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:26 pm
by xnview
If you quit XnView and click on this picture, IPTC is here?

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:29 pm
by HuGVM
No it is not - I already have verified this.

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:04 am
by HuGVM
Dear Pierre,
I've done some more investigation on IPTC data with tif-format:
- Edited all fields of all folders of the IPTC data dialog of a tif-image.
- Pressed the write button with selection "overwrite existing values"
- afterwards no IPTC date where visible with xnview.
- with the tool "EXIF-Browser" included in the Imabas tool all IPTC data previously entered using xnview could be seen.

May be this could help you to identify my problem
Thanks Harald

Re: IPTC XMP does not work on TIFF images

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:32 pm
by xnview
Ok, i've found. The IPTC data are correctly written, but not correctly readed...