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XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:26 pm
by budz45
Hi,

Currently when XnConvert fully completes it's conversion we see the window title text of ' [Finished] '
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Does anyone think that this text could be changed or not?

Here's a list of other possible names, perhaps there are more :P
  • * Finished
    * 100% Completed
    * Job Done!
    * Job Completed!
    * Actions Completed!
    * Conversion(s) done!

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:49 pm
by JohnFredC
I would hope for something more informative.

Perhaps something like:

[n] conversions complete @ [date + time]

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:15 pm
by budz45
JohnFredC wrote: [n] conversions complete @ [date + time]
Hmm you really think date/time is suitable for a window title? Wouldn't it be better to add date/time in the "log"

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:25 pm
by JohnFredC
For my way of thinking, in some circumstances it would quicker/easier to just glance at an informative window title (which may be minimized) than to look at the log.

I think the window title text is greatly underused by most applications.

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:31 pm
by Peter2
budz45 wrote:...Hmm you really think date/time is suitable for a window title? ...
Interesting remark ...

Yes, date and time should be in the log.
And everything what is not in the log should be in a status-bar (yes: status-bar is for status) and not in the title.
But - window-titles appear in the task-bar and can be detected also with a minimized window ...

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* Conversion(s) done!
This would be consistent to the name of the software and to the caption of the "Start-button".
But the translations (example German: "Konvertierung(en) abgeschlossen!") are too long to display it in taskbar - see above.

So I would prefer a string which is short in (nearly) all languages. The rest of information can be read from log.

Peter

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:22 pm
by helmut
Hmm, various and different opinions, so I'll add one more. ;-)

Currently, the dialog we discuss looks like this:
XnC_Conversion_00-orig.png
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As you can see in the screenshot above, there are three areas/ways that display the current progress:
Windows Title: Progess in percent + Time left.
Middle: Log info
Bottom: Progress bar with progress in percent to the right.

Personally, I think that the status info is a bit too much cluttered. But let's have a look at the various areas:

Windows title
The window title is used in the taskbar and shown when switching task using the keyboard short cut or the task manager. It can be useful to see the percentage and thus the current progress of the conversion. I think some status info should be kept in the window title to indicate the progress, percentage completed and remaining time is good status info (the only thing that I don't like is that the two infos are opposite values, completed versus remaining).

I have two suggestions, though:
1 - Modified titlebar
Currently, the window title says '45 % 67 second(s) left - Batch processing', for example. Instead, the window title should say "XnConvert - 45% processed - 67 seconds remaining" (XnConvert is used for batch processing - anyone downloading and installing should be know this, already, so the title 'batch conversion' is superfluous). Once conversion is finished, the window title should change to "XnConvert - 100 % processed". The part "0 seconds remaining" can be removed, I think.

2 - Minimizable window
The window could be made minimizable. Thus, the user can minimize during conversion and restore the image if he/she wants. There might be an option to "Restore minimized window when conversion is finished" which will make sure that the user is notified when the conversion is finished. Please note that I'm not 100% sure about the use and usage, here.

Enhanced log / info
I think the exact start time, end time and other stuff might be interesting for the user:
============================
Start time: 23.01.2011 21:09:33
End Time: 23.01.2011 21:32:45
Total Duration (hh:mm:ss): 00:23:12
Total Duration : 1.392
Minimum conversion time : 0.2
Average conversion time : 0.5
Maximum conversion time : 1.6
Input files: 108
Conversions successful: 99
Conversions failed: 9

BTW, which status info does nconvert output after a conversion?

This info could be written into the log, alternatively the tab page could be modified, e.g.:

XnC_Conversion_01.png
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Please note that the tab was renamed from "Log" to "Status".

Opinions and comments are welcome!

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:35 am
by Peter2
helmut wrote: ...
Minimum conversion time : 0.2
Average conversion time : 0.5
Maximum conversion time : 1.6
...

Really necessary?

helmut wrote: ....alternatively the tab page could be modified, e.g.:...

Looks nice, yes.

Peter

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:10 pm
by helmut
Peter2 wrote:
helmut wrote: ...
Minimum conversion time : 0.2
Average conversion time : 0.5
Maximum conversion time : 1.6
...

Really necessary?

Not really. But there might be other figures that could be of interest.

Peter2 wrote:
helmut wrote: ....alternatively the tab page could be modified, e.g.:...

Looks nice, yes.

Thanks. It's fun to do some UI design, again. :-)

- Helmut

Re: XnC: What's the best finalized window title text

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:13 pm
by Peter2
Version MP 0.48 has now some new entries relating the estimated and remaining time.

One suggestion:
"Estimated end time" should change to "Ending time / End time / Time finished": hh:mm:ss

Peter