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When you have an image displayed In the Viewer: View > Auto image sizestravamir wrote:Where is auto image size?
I have thought before that 'Auto image size' is not very clear, but it has been used in XnView Classic for a long time...stravamir wrote:Thank you for helping me.
So, it's cool I guess.Yes, and not just the View menu...stravamir wrote:It's just a bit unexpected for a content of a view menu to change when a user switches from browse to view tab.
Anyone else care to comment or have a suggestion?cday wrote:I have thought before that 'Auto image size' is not very clear, but it has been used in XnView Classic for a long time...
View > Fit image to... seems clearer to me, although I'm not sure if the ellipsis (...) conforms to normal conventions.
cday wrote:I have thought before that 'Auto image size' is not very clear, but it has been used in XnView Classic for a long time...stravamir wrote:Thank you for helping me.
View > Fit image to... seems clearer to me, although I'm not sure if the ellipsis (...) conforms to normal conventions.
Any other comments or suggestions?
in GUI conventions means either a dialog either a submenu.ellipsis (...)
Hm, yes and no. Because the main purpose of XnView is to be browser/viewer/organizer this means that such things are sometimes rather often used, hence they must be surfaced closer to user (menu, shortcuts etc.) and not buried deep down in settings.It's just a bit unexpected for a content of a view menu to change when a user switches from browse to view tab.
I was expecting those options in settings. But it was a limit on my view on a problem.
Thanks, I've Googled a bit and need further thought for a full understanding, but in this case the arrow to the right of the View menu item means an ellipsis is certainly not needed.m.Th. wrote:ellipsis (...) in GUI conventions means either a dialog either a submenu.
Any thoughts on whether View > Fit image to (with arrow) is clearer than 'Auto image size' and might assist new users?cday wrote: I have thought before that 'Auto image size' is not very clear, but it has been used in XnView Classic for a long time...
View > Fit image to... seems clearer to me, although I'm not sure if the ellipsis (...) conforms to normal conventions.
Updated URLs (quoted text subject to linkrot):MarkJ (Stack Overflow » [url=http://www.stackoverflow.com/questions/637683/when-to-use-ellipsis-after-menu-items#637708]When to use ellipsis after menu items[/url]) wrote:Microsoft Windows applications are supposed to follow Microsoft's "User Experience Guidelines". Here's what they say about ellipses on menu items.
David's answer cites the KDE 3 user interface guidelines,While menu commands are used for immediate actions, more information might be needed to perform the action. Indicate a command that needs additional information (including a confirmation) by adding an ellipsis at the end of the label.
This doesn't mean you should use an ellipsis whenever an action displays another window—only when additional information is required to perform the action. For example, the commands About, Advanced, Help, Options, Properties, and Settings must display another window when clicked, but don't require additional information from the user. Therefore they don't need ellipses.
The Apple Human Interface Guidelines say:Notice that every item in a menu that first opens a dialog requiring additional information must be labelled with a trailing ellipsis (...) (e.g. Save As..., Open...). There's no space between the menu item and the "...". A simple confirmation dialog is not considered a dialog that requires additional information.
When it appears in the name of a button or a menu item, an ellipsis character (…) indicates to the user that additional information is required before the associated operation can be performed. Specifically, it prepares the user to expect the appearance of a window or dialog in which to make selections or enter information before the command executes. Because users expect instant action from buttons and menu items (as described in “Buttons” and “Menu Behavior”), it's especially important to prepare them for this alternate behavior by appropriately displaying the ellipsis character. The following guidelines and examples will help you decide when to use an ellipsis in menu item and button names.
Any thoughts on whether View > Fit image to (with the arrow) is clearer than 'Auto image size' and more intuitive for new users?cday wrote: I have thought before that 'Auto image size' is not very clear, but it has been used in XnView Classic for a long time...
View > Fit image to... seems clearer to me...
I'm in favo(u)r of your suggestion.cday wrote:Any thoughts on whether View > Fit image to (with the arrow) is clearer than 'Auto image size' and more intuitive for new users?
everyone is agree with this change?XnTriq wrote:
- Fit image to »
- No fit
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