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Couple small requests (Name Numeric & Cancel button)

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:08 pm
by ckv
Please add 'Name (Numeric)' in the sort by list of the 'Batch Rename' and 'Create Web Page'.

Could you add Cancel and Aply (The standard windows method) buttons in the options dialog so it would possible to discard all changes made in the options. This is probaply easy to add, depending on how the options are currently saved.

Re: Couple small requests (Name Numeric & Cancel button)

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:13 pm
by Dreamer
ckv wrote:Could you add Cancel button in the options dialog so it would possible to discard all changes made in the options. This is probaply easy to add, depending on how the options are currently saved.
Do you mean "Reset settings to default"? If so, there should be also confirmation dialog with focus on "No" - since it would be very danger option.

Or do you want standard behavior for buttons like - OK, Cancel, Apply?

Re: Couple small requests (Name Numeric & Cancel button)

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:30 am
by ckv
Dreamer wrote:Do you mean "Reset settings to default"?
No no. Only the options what user have changed should be discarded back to previous settings.
Dreamer wrote:Or do you want standard behavior for buttons like - OK, Cancel, Apply?
Yeah thats more like it.
Is the 'Apply' button really needed, that I don't know.

Re: Couple small requests (Name Numeric & Cancel button)

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:27 pm
by Dreamer
ckv wrote:
Dreamer wrote:Do you mean "Reset settings to default"?
No no. Only the options what user have changed should be discarded back to previous settings.
So you want something like this?

- save settings
- close xnview
- open xnview
- do some changes in settings
- close xnview
- open xnview
= now you want the same settings you saved in the first step?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:24 am
by ckv
Uh oh, what?

I just want a 'Cancel' button in the options menu so I can do this.

- go to options
- make some changes
- press 'Cancel' to discard all changes I just made
or press 'OK' to save all changes I just made

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:32 pm
by Dreamer
ckv wrote:Uh oh, what?

I just want a 'Cancel' button in the options menu so I can do this.

- go to options
- make some changes
- press 'Cancel' to discard all changes I just made
or press 'OK' to save all changes I just made
OK, but it's a bit useless without the Apply button, you can't see those changes...

Undo on one page ?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:12 pm
by Clo
:arrow: Dreamer

:) Hello !

• Indeed, an “Apply” button is missing in the Options.
- I guess it might be set on each option-page, like we have in TC for the most option-pages :

———————Image

- However, I guess that ckv wishes to undo only the changes on one page, while here the “Cancel” button closes the Options…
- IMHO, a “Cancel” button might allow to undo only the changes of the displayed page, and then we could continue opening another page…

:mrgreen: Kind regards,
Claude
Clo

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:04 pm
by ckv
Dreamer wrote:OK, but it's a bit useless without the Apply button, you can't see those changes...
What you exactly mean by that?
Clo wrote:- However, I guess that ckv wishes to undo only the changes on one page, while here the “Cancel” button closes the Options…
Again, what? :D
ckv wrote:- press 'Cancel' to discard all changes I just made
Clearly the 'Apply' button is extremely important, since all these misunderstandings :)

Edit:
So just to clear things up I changed my original reguest.

By the way by asking/wondering is the 'Apply' button really needed' I meant that in windows you don't need to use the aply button to save the settings since OK also saves them, but it also closes the dialog.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:19 pm
by Olivier_G
I agree that the "Cancel" button is missing.

The "Close Window" Button shouldn't even exist, because you don't know if the changes are applied or discarded when "closing a window".
I had to test and try to understand that it means "cancel"... you shouldn't have to even wonder about this. :(

And I don't see any point in an "Apply" button as there is no visible immediate change. Nor to "cancel changes on this page"...
The best improvement here would probably be to allow to save/recall some "options profiles"[?] and revert to "defaults" if needed.

Edit: no... this last suggestion would not be useful either.

Olivier

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:37 pm
by Dreamer
I think, there should be 3 standard windows buttons, with standard actions:

[OK] [Cancel] [Apply]

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:49 am
by helmut
Dreamer wrote:I think, there should be 3 standard windows buttons, with standard actions:

[OK] [Cancel] [Apply]
I think three buttons (OK/Cancel/Apply) would be the "luxus" version.

- "Cancel" button
The "Cancel" button should be introduced, soon, since users sometimes have made some changes and then change their mind. At the moment, you always have to confirm your change.

- "Apply" button
For most options, the "Apply" is not needed since it would have no real immediate effect. So having an "Apply" low/medium priority.

(For the skins an Apply button would be nice, since only part of the skins available can be seen. A larger preview for each skin or horizontal scrollbars would help, here.)

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:18 am
by ckv
helmut wrote:I think three buttons (OK/Cancel/Apply) would be the "luxus" version.

- "Cancel" button
The "Cancel" button should be introduced, soon, since users sometimes have made some changes and then change their mind. At the moment, you always have to confirm your change.
Finally someone who understands how my mind works :D
And depending on how Pierre coded the options dialog, 'Cancel' extremely easy to add.
Edit: Oh I said that already on previous post.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:32 am
by helmut
ckv wrote:
helmut wrote:I think three buttons (OK/Cancel/Apply) would be the "luxus" version.

- "Cancel" button
The "Cancel" button should be introduced, soon, since users sometimes have made some changes and then change their mind. At the moment, you always have to confirm your change.
Finally someone who understands how my mind works :D
Think there's more people around... ;-)

BTW, the options dialog has a system menu with "Close" in the top right. I've tried it out and it actually cancels the dialog (without changing anything). :o

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:46 am
by ckv
helmut wrote:BTW, the options dialog has a system menu with "Close" in the top right. I've tried it out and it actually cancels the dialog (without changing anything). :o
OMG you are rigth! :o So all we need is a 'Cancel' button what only closes the options dialog.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:06 am
by helmut
ckv wrote:
helmut wrote:BTW, the options dialog has a system menu with "Close" in the top right. I've tried it out and it actually cancels the dialog (without changing anything). :o
OMG you are rigth! :o So all we need is a 'Cancel' button what only closes the options dialog.
Exactly. Should be a 2 minute job... (Actually I don't care much if it's little or a lot of work).