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Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:45 am
by tamle
I am setting up an image folder that will be frequently added. Those images must be optimized for storage. I am running a bat file that will do them all with Nconvert. However, I needed to exclude the optimized/processed images from the processing. As for now, I am using the functionality of cmd.exe in window to exclude those. I renamed processed file with "_c_" at the end (delete the original). I looped through each files and run the nconvert command for the files that don't have "_c_". I read the help file but do not see a way to exclude certain files. It would act like a filter that include certain files and exclude certain files in processing. Is there a way to do it with Nconvert natively?

Re: Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:34 am
by xnview
there is no way, but i think that you need to filter the names in the .bat before to start NConvert

Re: Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:42 am
by tamle
xnview wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:34 am there is no way, but i think that you need to filter the names in the .bat before to start NConvert
Is it possible to include it in the future? Because for inclusion, I can do mass operation for the whole folder like

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nconvert -out jpeg -ratio -rtype lanczos -rflag decr -rflag orient -resize 1400 1400 -D *.png
But because of exclusion, I have to loop through the name of each and every single file and run the command for that file only. Nconvert already go through the files' name for filtering. I would imagine the parameter to exclude would not be very radical restructuring. May be something like this

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-excl *.txt -excl *cc.jpg

Re: Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:46 am
by cday
Having previously marked processed files, you could if necessary insert a line in your batch file that moves those files to a temporary directory before processing the new files, and then a line that moves them back afterwards? Should be quick and just adds two lines of code.

Alternatively, the problem wouldn't arise if processed files could have a different extension.

Re: Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:19 am
by tamle
cday wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:46 am Having previously marked processed files, you could if necessary insert a line in your batch file that moves those files to a temporary directory before processing the new files, and then a line that moves them back afterwards? Should be quick and just adds two lines of code.
I think moving files would create more risk than ignoring the files. That problem could multiply if large files (in size and number) are involved. I don't know the operating system and cmd.exe well enough to assert the degree of those problem. But like I said, Nconvert already go through the files' name to determine which one should be processed. Stopping certain files from processing should not be a unreasonably large effort, IMHO.
cday wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:46 am Alternatively, the problem wouldn't arise if processed files could have a different extension.
I actually just run for *.* because 2 reasons. 1) The images I receives are from 40+ different people with different phone, settings, camera, platform... I don't really know which file type I will receive. I only know that their files is usually too large for my processes. 2)Nconvert will ignore the files it cannot process so it will not be too much problem.

Re: Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:04 am
by cday
tamle wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:19 am
cday wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:46 am Having previously marked processed files, you could if necessary insert a line in your batch file that moves those files to a temporary directory before processing the new files, and then a line that moves them back afterwards? Should be quick and just adds two lines of code.
I think moving files would create more risk than ignoring the files. That problem could multiply if large files (in size and number) are involved. I don't know the operating system and cmd.exe well enough to assert the degree of those problem.
I don't know cmd.exe that well either, but if you need a workaround that you can use now, I think it should work. The processed files to be moved will presumably have manageable file sizes.

If files that have been processed are marked with a _ suffix then the files to be moved could be selected using *_.* .

You could also easily, if necessary, create the temporary directory and later delete it (with care) using cmd.exe .

But like I said, NConvert already go through the files' name to determine which one should be processed. Stopping certain files from processing should not be a unreasonably large effort, IMHO.
Yes, if Pierre can implement it and you are able to wait.

Re: Exclusion parameter usage

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:37 pm
by tamle
Yes, if Pierre can implement it and you are able to wait.
Sure. I am thinking this could be useful for XNconvert as well. One text box for exclusion parameter could help user don't have to tick check boxes one by one.