Image basket

Ideas for improvements and requests for new features in XnView Classic

Moderators: XnTriq, xnview

Post Reply
Guest

Image basket

Post by Guest » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:41 pm

Hello

I tried to look a bit from these forums, but I didn't see this suggestion...

An "Image basket" would be nice. Like in ACDsee. It's a panel where you can drag images without actually copying or moving them anywhere in the hard drive. And it would show the thumbnails of the images. This would help if you need to organize many images temporarily.

For example if you have lots of pictures and you need to have some of them resized, you'd browse through your images, find and drag the chosen ones to the image basket. Then you'd have your chosen pictures nicely in one place even though they're actually all around the hard drive.

User avatar
XnTriq
Moderator & Librarian
Posts: 5456
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:00 am
Location: Ref Desk

Post by XnTriq » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:25 pm

There's a new commercial version (XnView Deluxe 2 Reloaded) which has two similar features called “Albums” & “Categories”.
The key points of the version 2 Reloaded wrote:Management of the categories allowing to classify a photo in x categories or albums, without duplication of the original photo.
Features — [url=http://www.xnview.fr/site_uk/features.html]Organise[/url] wrote:XnView DeLuxe now has Category management, enabling you to classify your photos into several categories without copying the original photo.
You can also check out this side-by-side comparison sheet (PDF, 200KB). Look for “Organize photos in different Albums (+ categories)”.

Guest

Post by Guest » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:38 pm

I know, but it's not the same, I think. If I understand correctly, you just select the category and you'll see the thumbnails in the thumbnail panel.

But with Image basket you'd have two panels with thumbnails, the regular one showing the content of a directory or a category and the Image basket showing the pictures you've dragged there. That way you can see the both pictures at the same time, the ones you've chosed and the ones you're choosing from.

User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 31918
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France
Contact:

Post by xnview » Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:01 pm

Guest wrote:I know, but it's not the same, I think. If I understand correctly, you just select the category and you'll see the thumbnails in the thumbnail panel.

But with Image basket you'd have two panels with thumbnails, the regular one showing the content of a directory or a category and the Image basket showing the pictures you've dragged there. That way you can see the both pictures at the same time, the ones you've chosed and the ones you're choosing from.
Yes, i'll add one in a future version...
Pierre.

Guest

Post by Guest » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:03 pm

That's great, thanks :)

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8174
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Post by helmut » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:27 pm

xnview wrote:
Guest wrote:I know, but it's not the same, I think. If I understand correctly, you just select the category and you'll see the thumbnails in the thumbnail panel.

But with Image basket you'd have two panels with thumbnails, the regular one showing the content of a directory or a category and the Image basket showing the pictures you've dragged there. That way you can see the both pictures at the same time, the ones you've chosed and the ones you're choosing from.
Yes, i'll add one in a future version...
I think an image basket is a good thing. If possible it should allow for putting arbitrary images into it and ordering them (light table aspect).

And it would be nice if contents of image basket could be used for operations like copying, renaming, ...

User avatar
JohnFredC
XnThusiast
Posts: 2010
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:33 pm
Location: Sarasota Florida

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:20 pm

I requested a lightbox function quite a while ago but there wasn't much reponse... :)

http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.p ... t=lightbox

Eventually I built a crude one in Delphi for myself (73k):

http://www.jfcinc.net/Interfaces/lightboxtest.jpg

It works OK for my purpose (primarily selecting and arranging images for stitching) but I really would like true lightbox functionality built into XNView.
John

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8174
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Post by helmut » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:27 pm

JohnFredC wrote:I requested a lightbox function quite a while ago ...
Yes, I remembered that post, this is why I mentioned it, here.

Your Delphi lightbox solution looks fine. I wonder whether combining an image basket and a lightbox makes sense or whether these are different pairs of shoes: For the light box a lot of space is needed for viewing the images. Whereas for the image basket, it might be o.k. to view the images as thumbnails or even in detail view (perhaps type of view "Thumbnail / Details / List / ...) could be even switchable).

User avatar
JohnFredC
XnThusiast
Posts: 2010
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:33 pm
Location: Sarasota Florida

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:59 pm

Some thoughts:

An image basket might behave similarly to the browser file list panel... it would be a linear collection of images arranged according to the sorting options and having the views that the browser does... thumbnails, file list, etc.

A lightbox (or light table) interface would be a little different.

The light table would display thumbnails only.

Thumbs would be draggable to anywhere on the table and the table would remember their positions between sessions (see below).

The table would be a 2 dimensional "surface" extending "infinitely" in both directions. So, not only would it need to a vertical scroll bar (as in the browser) but also a horizontal scroll bar, since the user might wish to move some thumbs to positions "off screen" and scroll over to them. (In my little lightbox program I used a Delphi scrollbox control).

A light table would have "zoom in/zoom out" functions that would show more or less of the table surface. For instance, "zoom to extents" would zoom all the way out to show all thumbs present on the table.

Additional functionality would be the ability to explicitly group thumbs using a marque so that if you moved one of them, the entire group would move.

Another idea would be an ability to identify groups by a differential background color for the table surface behind them.

Finally, the ability to name and save, then restore different arrangements of thumbs on the table would be of paramount importance. The saved "table" file would include the filenames, the positions of the corresponding thumbs, the zoom amount, and any associated grouping data.

I suppose that a light table could serve the function of an image basket, but not the other way around.
John

User avatar
Clo
XnThusiast
Posts: 4441
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:57 am
Location: Bordeaux, France
Contact:

And as a plugin ?

Post by Clo » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:08 pm

:) Hello John !

¤ That you tell above is very interesting. This leads me naturally to think that an “active plugin” might exist…
- Since you worked about this already, why not such a plugin from you ?
- If this could be feasible, I would support such a proposal.

:mrgreen: Kind regards,
Claude
Clo
Old user ON SELECTIVE STRIKE till further notice

User avatar
JohnFredC
XnThusiast
Posts: 2010
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:33 pm
Location: Sarasota Florida

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:11 pm

Clo my man, thanks for the compliment, but I am not a good enough programmer to write such a plugin for general consumption. Trust me on this.
John

randomlinh

Post by randomlinh » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:50 pm

I agree, an image basket is probably the only thing keeping me from using xnview full time. It's a great piece of software that's free... I like it better than irfanview on the image browsing aspect.

It's a shame I found this after I purchased acdsee though. Can't wait to see this feature.

Nickola

Post by Nickola » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:41 am

Excuse me for interruption of your discusson (old discussion), but I want Image Basket feature in XnView very very!!! I only wanted to post my suggestion and opinion. Thanks a lot for your program!

Post Reply