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"High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:51 pm
by xmozg
XnView: Version 0.99.1 64bits (Sep 23 2021) - thanks for new version with speed improvement.
OS: Windows 10 64bit
Bug: "High quality zoom-out" (image
reduction) settings (settings -> view -> high quality zoom-out) for filters called lanczos, spline and bicubic don't work.
They all look like billinear. Only "High quality zoom-in" (image
enlarge) works as expected.
This bug doesn't exist in Version 0.98.2 64bits (Feb 19 2021), before "2043: [New] Zoom out filter (Bicubic, Spline, Lanczos)" was introduced.
For some reason, Version 0.98.2 has "1958: [New] Zoom-in filter (Bicubic, Spline, Lanczos)" feature, but actually this feature is zoom-out (reduction).
Version 0.99.1 has "2043: [New] Zoom out filter (Bicubic, Spline, Lanczos)" feature, but actually this feature is zoom-in (enlarge).
Image compare lanczos4 algorithm for "zoom-out" at 99% level. Look only at 100% in image viewer. Version 0.99.1 at the right is blurry.
Test images from:
http://www.falklumo.com/lumolabs/articles/sharpness/
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:33 am
by xnview
"High quality zoom-out" use always bilinear, the setting is for High quality zoom-in
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:42 am
by xmozg
xnview wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:33 am
"High quality zoom-out" use always bilinear, the setting is for High quality zoom-in
That's what I'm talking about. Just need to fix this bug, which in Xnview 0.98.2 was not and "High quality zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters worked perfectly.
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:55 am
by xnview
in 0.98.2, it was a bug
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:25 am
by xmozg
xnview wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:55 am
in 0.98.2, it was a bug
I dont know, how it is bug, if:
Version 0.98.1, where high quality lanczos-spline-bicubic filters was officially introduced, shows lanczos zoom out perfectly.
Only starting with 0.98.3, when high quality lanczos-spline-bicubic "zoom out" was introduced, also bug was introduced, which destroy ACTUAL high quality lanczos-spline-bicubic zoom out and replaced it with high quality lanczos-spline-bicubic zoom in. In photography sharp zoom out is much more important, than sharp zoom in. Bicubic-spline-lanczos algorithm recommended for zoom out. And billinear recommended for zoom in. Xnview not just has this bug, but works not as expected by image editors and in pro photo, using resource-cheap billinear zoom out as 1990-early 200X programs.
Please fix this bug, or return back destroyed "Bicubic-spline-lanczos zoom out", so xnview will have Bicubic-spline-lanczos algorithms for both zoom in and zoom out. Version 0.98.2 is latest, which I can use. 0.99.1 is blurry and ugly, it and newer versions will be abandoned by me and other users (to which high quality matter), until bug will be fixed.
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:20 pm
by Scenerix
I second this. It is very annoying that the shown scaling options do nothing for downscaling.
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 6:15 am
by xnview

Thanks to your detailed description I can reproduce
the problem.
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:06 pm
by xnview
This problem is supposed to be fixed in
XnView MP 1.5.0 beta. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:48 pm
by Kadet
Now is a big problem.
When I zoom picture more than 100%, image is cutting on right and down side by few %

It works when zoom HDPI screen is setting off.
[update]
Windows 11 / display resolution 1920x1200 / win scaling 110%
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:41 pm
by xnview
which zoom settings do you have?
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:40 pm
by Kadet
xnview wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:41 pm
which zoom settings do you have?
Pixel ratio: square
Zoom step: fixed step / 25
Zoom Out: Bilinear (no mater)
Zoom In: Lanczos 3 (no mater)
Zoom on HiDPI screen: off (empty / is not checked)
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:49 pm
by xnview
Problem is no more here when 'Zoom on HiDPI screen: on'?
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:50 pm
by Kadet
xnview wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:49 pm
Problem is no more here when 'Zoom on HiDPI screen: on'?
No problem when HiDPI is ON
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:17 am
by xnview
will be fixed in b2
Re: "High quality Zoom-out" lanczos-spline-bicubic filters don't work
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:13 pm
by Kadet
Is fixed.