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Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:34 pm
by artsi
xnviewmp appimage on debian 11 with 50,000 images.

I'm assigning categories.

The way I work is:

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For example I select the events directory > right click: show all files (recursive) > select all the files > click on the category and when it's done, xnviewmp shows only the images of the last sub-directory, in this case xmas-toys-2008, and not all the files that I previously selected.

So now I need to go back to the events directory and again right click: show all files (recursive) to get back to my original list of images.

It happens every time I select the show all files (recursive).

* Is there a setting to fix this?
* Am I clicking on something wrong?

Thanks

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:56 am
by xnview
i don't udnerstand, when you select a category, you have the list of files for this category

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:41 pm
by artsi
xnview wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:56 am i don't udnerstand, when you select a category, you have the list of files for this category
1. I didn't select the category, I just clicked on the checkmark box: 'events', to apply it to all the images in the subdirectories that are below the events directory. All the images were selected with Ctrl-A.

2. After applying the category 'events' to all the images, then only these 8 images were displayed.

3. Even if xnviewmp returned the events category, then xnviewmp is missing at least 3000 images. It's returning only the 8 photos of the last sub-directory 'xmas-toys-2008'.

Thanks

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:09 pm
by xnview
how many files do you have selected? Do you write the category in XMP metadata? JPEG format?

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:24 pm
by artsi
xnview wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:09 pm how many files do you have selected? Do you write the category in XMP metadata? JPEG format?
1. I have selected all of them: exact total 2826 images of various format: dng, pef, cr2 and raf (no jpeg)
2. Yes I write the category to the xmp here are the settings:

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Thanks

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:08 am
by xnview
artsi wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:24 pm 1. I have selected all of them: exact total 2826 images of various format: dng, pef, cr2 and raf (no jpeg)
If i understand correctly, not all files have the category previously assigned?
Only files in subfolder have no category?

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:00 pm
by artsi
xnview wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:08 am
artsi wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:24 pm 1. I have selected all of them: exact total 2826 images of various format: dng, pef, cr2 and raf (no jpeg)
If i understand correctly, not all files have the category previously assigned?
Only files in subfolder have no category?
That is correct.

The directory does not contain any image only the subfolders

Thanks

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:13 pm
by xnview
and the files have all the correct XMP metadata?

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:03 pm
by artsi
xnview wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:13 pm and the files have all the correct XMP metadata?
No, the files do not have any iptc nor xmp data. If I click on write, then xnviewmp wants me to save the image as a jpeg.

I just would like to save that data into the xnviewmp sqlite for later searches.

Is this possible?

Thanks

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:35 am
by xnview
if you want only use the database, uncheck 'Export category to XMP'

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:45 pm
by artsi
xnview wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:35 am if you want only use the database, uncheck 'Export category to XMP'
I just did, but no, xnviewmp doesn't save it to the sqlite db.

1. ctrl-i (edit iptc)
2. type in the caption
3. write
4. close xnviewmp
5. reopen xnviewmp

it's not there

same thing with the "edit xmp" but there I type in the description.


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Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:00 pm
by michel038
Xnviewmp database (= the catalog) handles only categories, star ratings, color labels, region names.

But "Edit xmp" and "edit iptc" dialogs does not enter any metadata into the catalog. They are intended to write xmp or iptc metadata.
... Except IPTC keywords (with edit iptc), which can be "imported" into the catalog IF the import option (settings, metadata) is enabled, (and maybe if writing iptc keywords into the jpg file is successful).(and so on for xmp ratings if a recent bug was fixed in v 1.3.1)

If "Export category to xmp" is checked, xnviewmp will try to write categories as xmp keywords, if the file types support metadata to be added.

If you dont want to create any xmp metadata nor embedded iptc metadata , and use only the catalog, you can enter :
- Star ratings
- Color labels
- maybe Region names ? (I only tried WITH xmp metadata)
- Categories, without export options.(not "category" fields in edit iptc dialog)
- Tags (restrictive definition of tag, not tag as a synonyom of keyword)
... in the catalog.
Your last screenshot shows correct settings for this purpose but you can also uncheck all the options in this screen.

I hope that all this is more clearly explained here
viewtopic.php?p=179720#p179720

Re: Frustration, I must be doing something wrong

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:57 pm
by artsi
michel038 wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:00 pm Xnviewmp database (= the catalog) handles only categories, star ratings, color labels, region names.

...

If you dont want to create any xmp metadata nor embedded iptc metadata , and use only the catalog, you can enter :
- Star ratings
- Color labels
- maybe Region names ? (I only tried WITH xmp metadata)
- Categories, without export options.(not "category" fields in edit iptc dialog)
- Tags (restrictive definition of tag, not tag as a synonyom of keyword)
... in the catalog.
Your last screenshot shows correct settings for this purpose but you can also uncheck all the options in this screen.

I hope that all this is more clearly explained here
viewtopic.php?p=179720#p179720
Excellent. Thank you for explaining. I didn't realize that. I will have to change my "way of thinking" but I think that it will be lot faster.

Thank you