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Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:00 pm
by Benny
It seems that these information has been switched.
So:
modified date is created date, and created date is modified date.
(accessed date seems to be alright)

Example:
Bestandsnaam 20221230_170532.jpg
Datum/tijd aangemaakt 30-12-2022 - 17:40:07
Datum/tijd gewijzigd 30-12-2022 - 17:05:32
Datum/tijd benaderd 30-12-2022 - 17:42:08

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:09 pm
by michel038
"Create date" is almost always "the date when the file was copied here"
And "modified date" is "the date when the file was edited in a graphic editor"

So, a file recently copied has a create date more recent than it's modified date (which is often the date when the file was built"

Edit : I'm talking about file attributes, not exif dates, nor other iptc xmp dates.

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:32 pm
by Benny
I think you are not right... :(

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 7:52 am
by xnview
Benny wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:00 pm It seems that these information has been switched.
on Windows?

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:52 am
by Benny
Yes. Windows 10 Pro 22H2

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:30 pm
by xnview
Benny wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:52 am Yes. Windows 10 Pro 22H2
i've checked and the date/time are the same as windows explorer

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:49 pm
by Benny
Another example:

Bestandsnaam Afbeelding van WhatsApp op 2022-12-31 om 11.31.02.jpg

Datum/tijd aangemaakt 31-12-2022 - 11:37:11
Datum/tijd gewijzigd 31-12-2022 - 11:31:02
Datum/tijd benaderd 31-12-2022 - 11:37:23

{Modified Date[Ymd_HMS]} 20221231_113102.jpg
{Creation Date[Ymd_HMS]} 20221231_113711.jpg

N.N.: this is my last reply :D

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:13 pm
by xnview
you means in place holder?

Re: Create date/time vs modified date/time

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:15 pm
by michel038
Datum/tijd aangemaakt 31-12-2022 - 11:37:11
= creation date 20221231 113711
And
Datum/tijd gewijzigd 31-12-2022 - 11:31:02
= modified date 20221231 113102
So, what is the problem ?

I think your file was copied in this place (= création date 11:37) 6 minutes after being handled ("modified") by WhatsApp at 11:31.

The words are poorly chosen by Windows, I admit. And XnViewMp does not change the words.

The real creation date is in the file name ( ... and in exif fields but WhatsApp delete them). So some users are copying filename into exif:date taken to keep a real creation date saved.