REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
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REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.
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I don't follow logic here. How could 'Close' start things? But this isn't a big deal so I don't mind... It just that, every time I see that Cancel I get the fell that it's not right.Olivier_G wrote:I still prefer 'Cancel', because when you just 'Close' things... you end wondering whether it will start something somehow...
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Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.
What about "Stop"?
Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
You don't like 'Close', i think it's perhaps better to have Close to close dialogDreamer wrote:I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.
What about "Stop"?

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Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
The combination "Go" and "Close" sounds strange to me:xnview wrote:You don't like 'Close', i think it's perhaps better to have Close to close dialogDreamer wrote:I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.
What about "Stop"?
The user has initiated an action, which is a batch conversion and does preperations for this. "Cancel" will cancel the batch conversion and close the dialog, whereas "Go" will start batch conversion. Pretty clear.
The special thing and situation is the possibility not to perform a batch conversion and not close the dialog by unchecking "Close dialog after conversion". In this case, "Close" might be a bit more appropriate, but with "Cancel" the situation is also clear.
Renaming the button from "Cancel" to "Close" depending on the situation (batch conversion performed or not) would be a real overkill, I think.
Just my 0.02 Euros.
Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
Yes, but conversion is also cancelled / stopped.xnview wrote:You don't like 'Close', i think it's perhaps better to have Close to close dialogDreamer wrote:I disagree, if you just 'close' dialog, it's not cancelled.ckv wrote:The Cancel button in Batch convert have been bothering me a long time. It really should be Close button, since it doesn't "cancel" anything.
What about "Stop"?
Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
When the conversion is on you can't use this button (There's own dialog for the conversion what haves the Cancel button for this). So really the Cancel button in Batch convert don't "cancel" anything. For me it's only closes the dialog, because the conversion haven't started yet.Dreamer wrote:Yes, but conversion is also cancelled / stopped.
I agree. It sounds strange to me too, but so does the Cancel. When I used Batch convert at the first time I hesitate to press the cancel, because it wasn’t clear what it does. So I end up to closing the dialog from the titlebar close button.helmut wrote:The combination "Go" and "Close" sounds strange to me
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Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
I meant that conversion dialog, sorry.ckv wrote:When the conversion is on you can't use this button (There's own dialog for the conversion what haves the Cancel button for this).Dreamer wrote:Yes, but conversion is also cancelled / stopped.
But there are other similar dialogs, e.g. Batch rename or Properties dialog in explorer, there is also nothing started or changed, but it's a standard, maybe not correct, since if you use 'cancel' or 'close' button, same action is performed, but we can't change Windows and all programs with this 'behavior'. Therefore I think XnView should be the same and should use this (incorrect) standard.For me it's only closes the dialog, because the conversion haven't started yet.
Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
Well. If you use the "Cancel" in any explorer poroperties dialog, the changes (e.g. in file properties dialog: readonly, hidden...) what you made, doesn't apply.Dreamer wrote:But there are other similar dialogs, e.g. Batch rename or Properties dialog in explorer, there is also nothing started or changed,

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Re: REQ [MINOR]: The Cancel in batch convert should be close
OK, it's not 100% same but it would be strange if all other windows would have Cancel and one dialog Close IMHO.ckv wrote:Well. If you use the "Cancel" in any explorer poroperties dialog, the changes (e.g. in file properties dialog: readonly, hidden...) what you made, doesn't apply.Dreamer wrote:But there are other similar dialogs, e.g. Batch rename or Properties dialog in explorer, there is also nothing started or changed,So it cancels the changes what is made to the in the dialog.
I remember using programs where after pressing the button "Close"... ...they actually started to process things!ckv wrote:I don't follow logic here. How could 'Close' start things?


I can imagine "Close and Run..." but not "Cancel and Run"...

Therefore I find "Cancel" less prone to misinterpretation.
Olivier
No polls, they never work, and I can life with Cancel.ckit wrote:I think we should close it, unless you want to run a poll on "close" or "cancel"

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