XnView Software

I have been writing about the problem on many forums for a long time and now I have come here. The problem is in the switching mode. In all three types: Double-click, Middle mouse button, Enter. Nowhere is there the MOST important switching mode available in ALL such programs. "Browser - Fullscreen" mode. It is very necessary to switch from "Fullscreen" to full screen mode IMMEDIATELY to "Browser" mode
This is how it looks now: But this is how it should be

use "Browser ↔ Fullscreen | Viewer ↔ Fullscreen"
if you need to start with file in Browser (or Browser Fullscreen) mode - check settings in Settings > General > Startup

user0 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:34 pm use "Browser ↔ Fullscreen | Viewer ↔ Fullscreen"
if you need to start with file in Browser (or Browser Fullscreen) mode - check settings in Settings > General > Startup

You didn't understand... EVERYONE has to use IT, but it is DISASTROUSLY inconvenient.
Because all viewers HAVE a switching mode, IMMEDIATELY bypassing the intermediate states from full screen to thumbnail view mode.
But not here, the question is why?
From the mode you suggested, the mouse button does not get into the thumbnail mode in the browser at all.
And all intermediate modes are of the Viewing type... It's not needed for anything at all, it's just superfluous, but setting up the program FOR SOME reason makes me poke the mouse ONCE again and disappear into it all the time.
You don't need the preview mode, but since it's in the program. Well, then make the mode switch so that I don't have to get into this mode, as I wrote.
BROWZER-FULLSCREEN
Just add to those viewing modes that there is ANOTHER ONE, in general it is the Only one and all the others are simply NEVER useful.
But there is no such necessary regime, and it has been for MANY years.
That's why I don't use your program, and many, I've heard the same claim on all forums, everyone is sitting on FastStone Image Viewer because of this, because this is the MOST logical of all types of transition, and the only one it originally needs, and the same thing in ALL viewing programs, except THIS ONE.
BROWZER-FULLSCREEN
That's all you need to switch between modes, and it's NOT there, how is that?
Do you need to record a video? And what is everywhere?
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1. QIMGV video program. All the others behave the same way, one double-click and go from the full screen directly to the browser 2. This is XnViewMP, it shows that there is always an intermediate mode. No matter how you configure it, it is IMPOSSIBLE to switch directly to browser mode from full screen, and all intermediate modes are not needed at ALL, they will never be useful. Never. Why click the mouse ONE MORE TIME.

The viewing mode, in principle, is not needed in the program, because ALL the functionality is available in the other two modes.
whole. It is unclear why it was inserted into the program at all. Well, probably at the initial stage of design it was needed.
But no one uses it for SURE.
Okay, let's not change that.
But why switch modes there is simply NO option to switch from the full screen immediately to the thumbnails, it's LOGICAL. And in all such programs, THIS option is always available by default, but not here.
Well, it's funny

If photo processing is needed, batch processing all works from these modes, and a person needs it in 1 out of 100 cases. In all other 99 cases, he just needs to open the image from the folder, look at the rest of the photos with the wheel, and if necessary switch to thumbnail mode to see MORE photos in the folder, more clearly. it's all. But it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to do it RIGHT AWAY in this program. And why? The thing is the simplest. And there is everywhere.

I just swear to you that MOST people use the FastStone Image Viewer program instead of XnViewMP ONLY for this reason. Did you not know about this? This is being talked about EVERYWHERE, on all forums. Now, if XnViewMP would normally switch immediately to thumbnail mode from full screen, but... SHE CAN'T DO THAT.

All the necessary settings are already there from the beginning of times.
You have to speak for yourself, eg for me starting in Fullscreen by default is the most annoying part of other image viewers.

Speaking of your case, it looks like you've messed with the settings too much, as there shouldn't be an empty toolbar.
I suggest either delete the xnview.ini file or completely reinstall app.

After that, go to Settings and change everything as I said (as you missed second step completely):
1. set switching modes to "Browser ↔ Fullscreen | Viewer ↔ Fullscreen"
2. set Open to "Browser - Fullscreen" in Start with file (Settings > General > Startup)

user0 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:54 pm All the necessary settings are already there from the beginning of times.
You have to speak for yourself, eg for me starting in Fullscreen by default is the most annoying part of other image viewers.

Speaking of your case, it looks like you've messed with the settings too much, as there shouldn't be an empty toolbar.
I suggest either delete the xnview.ini file or completely reinstall app.

After that, go to Settings and change everything as I said (as you missed second step completely):
1. set switching modes to "Browser ↔ Fullscreen | Viewer ↔ Fullscreen"
2. set Open to "Browser - Fullscreen" in Start with file (Settings > General > Startup)

Holy shit. Yes, it helped, but WHY is it so difficult? Why can't you just add the desired switching mode, it also SUGGESTS ITSELF.
Well, thank you... Do I have strange viewing settings like this? No, they are not strange, it's just that for some reason there is no CLOSE button in the program by default in full-screen viewing mode, It's not clear why at all.

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:24 pm Yes, it helped, but WHY is it so difficult? Why can't you just add the desired switching mode, it also SUGGESTS ITSELF.
Well, thank you... Do I have strange viewing settings like this? No, they are not strange, it's just that for some reason there is no CLOSE button in the program by default in full-screen viewing mode, It's not clear why at all.

You are free to make a suggestion in that forum section that a new option be added...

cday wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:40 pm

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:24 pm Yes, it helped, but WHY is it so difficult? Why can't you just add the desired switching mode, it also SUGGESTS ITSELF.
Well, thank you... Do I have strange viewing settings like this? No, they are not strange, it's just that for some reason there is no CLOSE button in the program by default in full-screen viewing mode, It's not clear why at all.

You are free to make a suggestion in that forum section that a new option be added...

And am I not in this section of the forum?
Where to make this offer.
By the way, it's funny that if you poked into thumbnail mode and then back into full-screen viewing mode, the menu can't be configured AT ALL. Neither add a button in a very difficult way, nor anything at all. There are no settings in the program with this option at all.

Your existing post is in General Support, there is a separate Suggestions heading which would be a better place to make a clear request for a new switching mode option and your reasoning for it.

cday wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:10 pm Your existing post is in General Support, there is a separate Suggestions heading which would be a better place to make a clear request for a new switching mode option and your reasoning for it.

Ok

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:24 pm Yes, it helped, but WHY is it so difficult?

its not difficult (as this app has one of the most full and logical settings system), its "skill issue"
you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:24 pm Why can't you just add the desired switching mode, it also SUGGESTS ITSELF.

this is not required, as the existing settings already cover all cases,
but you are free to make a suggestion

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:24 pm it's just that for some reason there is no CLOSE button in the program by default in full-screen viewing mode, It's not clear why at all.

you are not along here:
Viewer - Fullscreen: add "close window" button

you are not along here:
Viewer - Fullscreen: add "close window" button

Wow... Is it so difficult to add a button?
If there is a theme and I know that the button has not been there for at least several years, it is obvious there, and... nothing happens.

its not difficult (as this app has one of the most full and logical settings system), its "skill issue"
you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

I would never agree. How is it not difficult? To get One function, you need to make SEVERAL settings, this already indicates the lack of logic in the program. At least you need to enter two different settings points, but not only that, you need to try MANY times to understand which combination of one setting and the other will work the way you need. No, this is a COMPLETE lack of logic, and I have not seen this in any of these programs. Well, think about it, there is a preview, there is no close button, how is that? What kind of place did the creators even think of?
This can be understood if the program was created recently and something was not thought through, but the program has existed for several decades, and 25 years after its creation, you need to write in a separate topic "You do not have a close button", and what is the first time I noticed? Did everyone else not notice it for 25 years? Where is the logic?

It was you who told me how to set up two viewing modes by clicking the mouse button. But I swear to you. EVERYWHERE they DON'T KNOW about it, precisely because it is completely illogical and logical like THIS: Only this way and in no other way, there are no other logical options.
Just add another switch option.

And now I just noticed that after resetting the program Again, there is no fucking CLOSE button, and again I have to add it through the back gate... Logic? The creators of the program do not have it. Where is the button? Urry where the damn button is... This place should have been YOUR ADVERTISEMENT about the Button!!!!!!


Yeah, I figured out why there's NO close button at all now. ))))))))))
Well, just to fuck up.
Because THIS option is enabled:
2. set Open to "Browser - Fullscreen" in Start with file (Settings > General > Startup)
Now there is no way to configure the close button at all. Is it logical? UNDOUBTEDLY ))))))))))))

21st century... In the program, it is IMPOSSIBLE to close the window in one of the viewing modes. Just click the escape button

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:53 am Nowhere is there the MOST important switching mode available in ALL such programs. "Browser - Fullscreen" mode. It is very necessary to switch from "Fullscreen" to full screen mode IMMEDIATELY to "Browser" mode

So you would like to switch between Fullscreen and Browser, even if you are in fullscreen from viewer tab, right?

xnview wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:08 am

Velius wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:53 am Nowhere is there the MOST important switching mode available in ALL such programs. "Browser - Fullscreen" mode. It is very necessary to switch from "Fullscreen" to full screen mode IMMEDIATELY to "Browser" mode

So you would like to switch between Fullscreen and Browser, even if you are in fullscreen from viewer tab, right?

Here is the above video of how it should be.
As it is in all such programs.
I've already been shown how to do it.
Works. But I stumbled and switched back to the one that was, the one in the video.
Because there is no close button.
Inconvenient. In general, I do not understand how one of the oldest programs has such STUPID, unfinished solutions, over 25 years of program development.
A video about how to DO IT. Which is implemented BY DEFAULT in ALL the same programs. And in yours, you can get a similar result only if you KNOW from someone how to do it and the result is exactly not what you need. Because the fullscreen view that is obtained after such settings is NOT the SAME, it cannot be configured by adding at least one button, CLOSE. There are NO full-screen settings for THIS mode. Why not? Why is there no close button at all, why do I have to go either to the context menu to close the window, or press a key combination? It should switch LIKE THIS. You don't have the MOST necessary switching mode in the program. And the option of switching when it is necessary to go into other settings and the result of switching is NOT the way it should be... What for? Look at the IDIOCY I had to do in the switching option
that I set up, where there were THREE clicks on the button to switch from full-screen viewing to thumbnails.
And only for the sake of the "Close" button on the top right. АAnd when switching what they told me here, I can't get into full-screen viewing mode at ALL so that there is THIS button, "Close", that is, you have Different full-screen modes, one of them is the one that runs not from the program but directly from the folder, where you can configure the close button in such a STUPID way.
But If you run it differently in full screen, this (it is unclear why there are two full screen modes) THERE are NO settings in the program AT ALL, no buttons to configure anything.
And when I set it up like this, as I showed, there is also no normal option, just the close add button on the right, I have to insert the "Command" in a stupid way many times so that there are spaces that move the button to the right.
Now full-screen viewing has become like this, yes, one switch to thumbnails, but the BUTTONS are gone: Where are the buttons? Pierre... And not just the close button. Are there any normal buttons at all?

Here's how the same full-screen mode is implemented in FastStone Image Viewer PS
Once again, I repeat my thought that I expressed ABOVE ...
your program is one of the oldest, but it is not popular.
And FastStone Image Viewer, I'll find a vote and insert a picture.
And there's ONE reason, she's THE ONLY ONE, IT's INCONVENIENT. It's not the features that you change from update to update, but the CONVENIENCE.
The program is not logical in its behavior, The simplest thing has to be done through the BACK gate, The absolute majority of users, what they are used to in other programs, THEN You have to go to YOUR forum, like me, and ask how to do it the way I need to. And they will explain it to him for a LONG time.
You understand that EVERYONE who chooses a program to view photos will not go to your forum, they will just choose what WORKS.

Voting is on a VERY old Russian forum, there are a lot of people there.: Third place. And the program is one of the oldest.