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XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:58 am
by obelisk
When viewing full screen single left click of the mouse used to zoom to 100 percent while it was held down.
It is no longer doing that is it set in an option somewhere?


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In the batch window will have presets and a list of files we have previously used

this is normally sorted in the order of the most recently used script

this is usually saved between closing and opening the main window

it is no longer saved and always in A-Z

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Compared to XnViewMP 1.6.5

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:05 am
by user0
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:58 am When viewing full screen single left click of the mouse used to zoom to 100 percent while it was held down.
It is no longer doing that is it set in an option somewhere?
Zoom & pan (Settings > Mouse)
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:58 am In the batch window will have presets and a list of files we have previously used
this is normally sorted in the order of the most recently used script
this is usually saved between closing and opening the main window
it is no longer saved and always in A-Z
dropdown lists should always be automatically sorted A-Z

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:43 am
by obelisk
That's unfortunate. I have to rename my presets because I'm treating them like a recent used file list

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:08 am
by obelisk
@xnview

If preset list is going to act as a A-Z file list and not a recent file list, then it needs to list all files.

OLD:
when you load a file it goes into the list and is saved into the folder Scripts
the most recent used file is at the top

this is a recent files list


NEW:
it shows files in A-Z order

this is a file listing

this means you don't care whether I have used the file or not

this means you need to list every file in the folder Scripts, regardless of whether I have used the file or not



currently it's in between and it makes no sense.

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:20 am
by user0
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:08 am this means you need to list every file in the folder Scripts, regardless of whether I have used the file or not
no, its not
I may have hundreds of .xbs in different folders, but I don't want them all autoloaded into the Presets combobox.
There should be only the .xbs I loaded manually (or created via Save preset).

The only thing required is to allow multiple files to be selected in the Load script dialog.

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:46 pm
by obelisk
Frankly this is making less and less sense

it's either file list or a recent file list

whenever you load it it's a file list and it's sort of A to z

as you use it it becomes a recent file list

it should be one or the other not different depending on when you are looking at it

for example if I have selected the drop down I should be able to press the down arrow and scroll through them but you can't because it is acting like a recent file list and you keep swapping between 2

now since you cannot use the arrows and you can use only the mouse to select each time, this should not be a drop box
if you truly want it to behave like this it needs to be a listbox, showing at least 5 items high. There's space in the UI. It would need to scale to use up the extra vertical space available



there is no software anywhere in the world that acts like this

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:48 pm
by obelisk
user0 wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:20 am
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:08 am this means you need to list every file in the folder Scripts, regardless of whether I have used the file or not
no, its not
I may have hundreds of .xbs in different folders, but I don't want them all autoloaded into the Presets combobox.
There should be only the .xbs I loaded manually (or created via Save preset).

The only thing required is to allow multiple files to be selected in the Load script dialog.
OK this is even worse than if you have things in different folders then why should it be sorted by name? If you have scripts in different folders then the drop down should be a tree and it should be sorted by folder and then filename

otherwise you have things sorted in a crazy way

folder1\event 1
folder2\event 2
folder1\event 3

for example this is a stupid sorting because you are not showing the folder where the file is

I don't understand why this is clearly being treated then as a recent file list that it has been changed to sort in a strange way

for example go to Microsoft Office and see how they sort the file list



and now we have inconsistencies as well because the preset drop acts like this
But the output Folder does not , it is acting like a recent file list

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:37 pm
by xnview
right, i add a setting.

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:05 pm
by user0
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:46 pm if I have selected the drop down I should be able to press the down arrow and scroll through them but you can't because it is acting like a recent file list and you keep swapping between 2
yeah, better to change to standard behavior - scroll through all items w/o loop
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:48 pm folder1\event 1
folder2\event 2
folder1\event 3
for example this is a stupid sorting because you are not showing the folder where the file is
I see absolutely no issue here
there is no reason to overengineer this simple preset combobox, if user wants path/filename sorting - name files accordingly (eg folder_name)
obelisk wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:48 pm and now we have inconsistencies as well because the preset drop acts like this
But the output Folder does not , it is acting like a recent file list
I would also use A-Z sort in other comboboxes with user input, eg:
- Batch convert: Output folder, Filename
- Batch rename: Name template, Replace
- Search: Preset
- etc


I would also not show .xbs in combobox as it is redundant.
This is a bit tricky, however, as there is a name="" tag in .xbs (equal to the filename when file is created) that could potentially have priority over filename. Probably its possible to show path/filename via tooltip (when you hover cursor over selected item and wait).

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:33 pm
by obelisk
xnview wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:37 pm right, i add a setting.
I would not say this is necessary. If you decided to do it this way then do it this way. You end up with too many options and no one understands how things work anymore

But we need to consistency throughout.
At the moment the sorting works sometimes and it acts as a recent file other times
it needs to be a solid sorted list that cannot be changed

also this there's a bug when you save an update on a script sometimes you get two listings of the same file

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:41 pm
by xnview
obelisk wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:33 pm At the moment the sorting works sometimes and it acts as a recent file other times
it needs to be a solid sorted list that cannot be changed
also this there's a bug when you save an update on a script sometimes you get two listings of the same file
how to reproduce?

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:23 pm
by obelisk
I was just changing an existing script and then pressed save and save to the same name again

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:33 pm
by xnview
obelisk wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:23 pm I was just changing an existing script and then pressed save and save to the same name again
please describe, i don't see the problem

Re: XnView MP 1.8.2 Regressions

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:00 pm
by xnview
This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 1.8.3. Please check and confirm the bug fix here.