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Selecting Digital Camera Images: How do you?

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:11 pm
by negg
Hi XnView Lovers ;-)

I've been using XnView as long as I can think, and it works pretty good. There is only one thing that still feels a little "rough": my workflow when selecting digital camera images. So I would like to hear from other experienced users what workflow they use. One never stops learning!
  • - I download the images from my cam to a temporary folder
  • - I open that folder in XnViews Thumbnail/Preview mode and start looking through the images to see which ones are good, rotating where necessary. If I cannot see enough in preview I temporarily switch to fullscreen.
  • - Now if I have a series of images of the same subject I check each one and delete the bad ones until I have my favorite. This is the most annoying part, because I have to "remember" which were the good ones and compare them to others. I would like to have a solution to temporarily "mark" the images I like, so I can easily compare them. I tried to use comment or IPTC Categories as a workaround, but that is way too complicated. Also I tried "description" Ctrl-D but there is no way to see which are "marked" that way in the thumbnail list.
  • - When I selected my favorites I delete the other images of the series
  • - Finally, when all images are checked, I add IPTC keywords and descriptions. This is still too much mouse clicking in XnView, and I (and other users) already proposed to Pierre how this could be done better...hoping so much that this will happen soon.
  • - Even more finally ;-) I batch rename the images to carry the date in the filename and move them to my image storage harddrive in a "year" folder (2006).
So to make it short:
  • - How do you select your favorite images from series of photographs?
  • - How do you IPCT-tag your images?
Thanks so much for sharing you experience!
Martin

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:13 am
by Drahken
1) I use view mode not browser mode, and I just go through the pics one by one (using the scrollwheel to go to the next image), and just make a mental note of the ones I like/don't like. (If you can't decide between 2 pics, you can always load them in seperate tabs and switch back&forth to compare.)
2) I don't. I never add any non-image information, and I frequently remove such info. It adds to the filesize (the text doesn't add much, but I like to squeeze every byte I can out of it, and the damned embedded thumbnails inflate the filesize way too much), and I simply have no use for it. I can tell all I need to know about a pic by simply looking at the content of it.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:21 pm
by negg
Drahken wrote:1) I use view mode [...] make a mental note of the ones I like/don't like.
I often use the sequence shoot mode of my cam, resulting in sometimes 20 or 30 images of one subject (especially with fast moving targets like animals or children ;-) Making a mental note with such a bunch of images all looking nearly the same seems a little difficult to me...you don't write filenames or numbers down, or something like that?
Drahken wrote:2) I don't. I never add any non-image information, and I frequently remove such info. It adds to the filesize (the text doesn't add much, but I like to squeeze every byte I can out of it, and the damned embedded thumbnails inflate the filesize way too much), and I simply have no use for it. I can tell all I need to know about a pic by simply looking at the content of it.
:-) I already thought you'd say so from your other posts in this forum...but I still can't imagine how you find that certain image "where Person X was standing near Person Y on...humm...whose wedding was it?" in your several-thousands-image-collection...do you look through all of the images really?

I still prefer to launch a search for IPTC-keywords and find that image in the blink of an eye, because the 10 bytes more don't really matter on my 300GB hard drive ;-) but thats just my way to see it I guess.

But thanks for sharing your thoughts anyway!

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:09 pm
by Drahken

I often use the sequence shoot mode of my cam, resulting in sometimes 20 or 30 images of one subject
Well... My camera doesn't have a sequence shoot mode, so I never have more than 4~5 of a particular shot to sort through. If you're dealing with 20~30, remembering would be much harder. ;) What about simply deleting non-possibilities as you find them in order to get them out of the way? (ie, You decide that image #2 is better than image #1, therefore even if #3 is better than #2, there's still no way you'll choose #1, so you might as well delete it now.)

...but I still can't imagine how you find that certain image "where Person X was standing near Person Y on...humm...whose wedding was it?" in your several-thousands-image-collection...do you look through all of the images really?
I either rename the images to wedding_001, wedding_002 or johns_wedding_001, johns_wedding_002, etc and/or dump them into folders named wedding_pics, johns_wedding_pics, etc.
The few bytes that the ICTP adds aren't really a consideration, but I'm almost compulsive about trimming filesizes. Mainly, I just don't think it's worth the effort to add in ICTP/EXIF data (and since I also don't think it's worth the effort of resetting the clock/calender in my camaera every time I change the batteries, the data it includes in the pics is wrong and therefore useless, so there's no point in keeping it).