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View>Auto Image Size> should read View>Size Image

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:54 pm
by Arqfaim
Remove the "Auto" from View>Auto Image Size> menu entry. It's misleading in that you're changing image size conditioning (sizing) manually and for the current image only. The auto, permanent settings are on Options>View>Auto Image Size (could read Options>View>Auto Size Image).

Re: View>Auto Image Size> should read View>Size Ima

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:38 am
by xnview
Arqfaim wrote:Remove the "Auto" from View>Auto Image Size> menu entry. It's misleading in that you're changing image size conditioning (sizing) manually and for the current image only. The auto, permanent settings are on Options>View>Auto Image Size (could read Options>View>Auto Size Image).
Everyone agree?

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:54 am
by Koogle
don't mind 8)

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:45 pm
by helmut
Thank you for raising the issue which keeps confusing people.

The problem is partly the naming but also the separation of this menu item from the other "Zoom" menu items and last not least the expectation people have: More or less it is good to have a automatic zoomed image when zooming from one image to the next. And the user thinks that he/she has found this handy feature in the menu "auto image size".

"Auto image size" has never sounded very clear to me, I'd like to see a label that contains "Zoom" since these settins are nothing else than special, automatically calculated zoom settings. Some possible names:

"Zoom special"
"Zoom fit"
"Zoom & Fit"
"Dynamic Zoom"
"Auto Zoom"
"Zoom automatic"

When looking at the sub menu items in "Auto image size" I find that the labels of the menu items are long and clear. They could be shorter and even a bit clearer.

XnView 1.82
Image

Proposal A
Image
I've grouped the menu items using separators and changed the order a bit. And I have removed the additions ",all" since this is clear.

Proposal B: "
Image
Normally, it's better to be a bit verbose, but if menu texts are too long, it's harder to understand at first glance. The hard thing is to find a good balance between length and clearliness. Basically, Zooming and fitting is for images, so I've removed the word "image". I've changed "large only" to "large images only". All in all the length of the menu items remained the same, but to me this seems a bit clearer.

Proposal C
Image
I've replaced the term "Fit" by "Zoom" to emphasize that we speak of zooming.

Currently, my favourite is A, the simple changes are sufficient. And "No fit" should be removed.

- Remove "No fit"?!
At the moment I'm not clear why we need "No fit" in this menu. "No fit" makes sense in the options, but not in the "View" menu. If the user does want other zooms than dynamic zoom, he/she can use one of the many other menu items for zooming. And in "Options" the term "No fit" should be replaced by something like "100%" or "No fit (100%)".

- Options: Same thing, but permanent
Remains the naming in the "Options" dialog. The thing is the same, the only difference is that one is for the current image and the other one is when opening an image. For this reason I think a similar term should be used, by adding "always" or another word this aspect might be emphasized. E.g. "Zoom fit (always):"

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:23 pm
by Guest
Separators on the menu are a good idea.
I like Proposal A, like Proposal B best, don't like C. I think the term "Fit" is clear in itself.

But unless I'm confused myself, we only need on the View Menu:

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No fit (1:1 zoom)
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Fit to window /
Fit to desktop
Fit to window width
Fit to window height
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Fit window to image Ctrl+T
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That's because these commands are for the current image only, right?
Related: Please offer feedback on "Fit window to image" suggestion