RC4: Tip dialog at startup

[helmut]

In XnView 1.80, at startup a message box is displayed. This is annoying and limited. Instead, a tipp dialog should be displayed. This would allow for displaying various helpful information and people would not be so irritated.

Sure enough there should be a way (option) to reactivate the tip dialog once it has been deactivated.

Note:
I've marked this one as bug since I think that this is a must for XnView 1.80.

[Olive]

Would indeed help to eg introduce the new fullscreen-lite mode, and to explain how it differs from the normal mode. That's gonna confuse more than one user otherwise

[Dreamer]

I agree.

I suggest to place some tips here...

[xnview]

I agree.
I suggest to place some tips here...

Currently i have this info dialog:
"By default only the most common formats are available for loading/saving. If you want to have special formats, also, please visit the options, category ""General > Startup"""
I think this dialog or tips must be shown all the time, because it's an important information.

[Dreamer]

Pierre,

That dialog above should be the 1st tip...

I guess, Helmut wants something like this:

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+---------------------------------+
| 1st tip: text......             |
|                                 |
|                                 |
| +-----------+     +----------+  |
| | Prev. tip |     | Next tip |  |
| +-----------+     +----------+  |
|                                 |
| [x] Show tips at startup        |
|                                 |
+---------------------------------+

[helmut]

Pierre,

That dialog above should be the 1st tip...

I guess, Helmut wants something like this:

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+---------------------------------+
| 1st tip: text......             |
|                                 |
|                                 |
| +-----------+     +----------+  |
| | Prev. tip |     | Next tip |  |
| +-----------+     +----------+  |
|                                 |
| [x] Show tips at startup        |
|                                 |
+---------------------------------+

Exactly. This will look much more friendly and is much more flexible since it can show various tipps.

There's various possible tipps, already, e.g.:
1 - Special file formats.
2 - EXIF Auto rotation
3 - High quality thumbnails (instead of embedded thumbnails)
4 - Selection ratio allows for preparing photos
5 - Red eye correction (Zoom in, select one eye, then use correction)
6 - More tipps online in FAQ and pointer to this XnView forum

I'm sure once a tip dialog is available it will be filled easily. (@Pierre: Separate header file or plain text files, please).

Sure enough this tip dialog should only appear if the user starts XnView, not if you double-click on an image in MS Explorer to view it.

[xnview]

There's various possible tipps, already, e.g.:
1 - Special file formats.
2 - EXIF Auto rotation
3 - High quality thumbnails (instead of embedded thumbnails)
4 - Selection ratio allows for preparing photos
5 - Red eye correction (Zoom in, select one eye, then use correction)
6 - More tipps online in FAQ and pointer to this XnView forum

Could you help me to write this tips?

I'm sure once a tip dialog is available it will be filled easily. (@Pierre: Separate header file or plain text files, please).

Why?

[helmut]

There's various possible tipps, already, e.g.:
1 - Special file formats.
2 - EXIF Auto rotation
3 - High quality thumbnails (instead of embedded thumbnails)
4 - Selection ratio allows for preparing photos
5 - Red eye correction (Zoom in, select one eye, then use correction)
6 - More tipps online in FAQ and pointer to this XnView forum

Could you help me to write this tips?

I think so, with the help of some other people (English native speakers). Think we need a Wiki to work on the same texts, now. I'll ask Sören to set one up.

I'm sure once a tip dialog is available it will be filled easily. (@Pierre: Separate header file or plain text files, please).

Why?

Basically the same issues as for the translation of the on-screen texts and additionally: Finding out the right length, format, and texts will take a bit of fiddling around. So it would be good if the authors / translators could edit and then see what the result is. Also adding new texts will be much easier.

[xnview]

I'm sure once a tip dialog is available it will be filled easily. (@Pierre: Separate header file or plain text files, please).

Why?

Basically the same issues as for the translation of the on-screen texts and additionally: Finding out the right length, format, and texts will take a bit of fiddling around. So it would be good if the authors / translators could edit and then see what the result is. Also adding new texts will be much easier.

But then you'll have many tips text files (1 for each language?)

[xnview]

But then you'll have many tips text files (1 for each language?)

Or perhaps something lilke that:
[fr]
tips1 = ...
tips2 = ...
[de]
tips1 = ...
tips2 = ...

[helmut]

But then you'll have many tips text files (1 for each language?)

Right, but does this really matter much? All files would reside in one directory and only the file with the current language would be read.
If it's too much work to switch to text files, now, it might we can surely stick to the DLLs, now, and later move to text files (perhaps with all the on-screen texts).

Or perhaps something lilke that:
[fr]
tips1 = ...
tips2 = ...
[de]
tips1 = ...
tips2 = ...

I strongly recommend to keep one file per language, otherwise you will have to combine the languages from the translators manually or with some script. And version control will become difficult.

[xnview]

But then you'll have many tips text files (1 for each language?)

Right, but does this really matter much? All files would reside in one directory and only the file with the current language would be read.
If it's too much work to switch to text files, now, it might we can surely stick to the DLLs, now, and later move to text files (perhaps with all the on-screen texts).

Or perhaps something lilke that:
[fr]
tips1 = ...
tips2 = ...
[de]
tips1 = ...
tips2 = ...

I strongly recommend to keep one file per language, otherwise you will have to combine the languages from the translators manually or with some script. And version control will become difficult.

Perhaps it would be good to have one external text file for tips.

[Dreamer]

Just a suggestion:

Maybe few tips should be named "Important:". Because users don't read all tips - some users, if they install a program, first unmark "Show tips at startup" and then just use it. If there would be few tips with "Important:" they could read at least these tips.