Before I claim this is a bug - this is likely the only time I'll be able to find this forum - I'd like to say that I have no idea if it's just shown up in the verion I have now. I have 1.80.1 installed at this point in time. It may have been a problem/bug all along. It may not even be a bug. It might be something at my end.
I have a folder of images that I keep adding more to all the time. It is on a network share. The PC remains hidden and a monitor sits in the livingroom. It does nothing but show these images all the time unless I've shut it off to watch a movie or play a game. It's not one of the main computers. It's just a spare computer (one of many) that doesn't do anything at all other than those two things. It never goes online and it seems that this behavior is not just on that PC but now I can replicate it on a few others in the house as well.
When I start a slideshow - not a saved one or anything - there's a couple thousand photos that are loaded. I have, of course, selected random. (This is very minor.) The very first image is the same exact image every single time. I don't really care that it is but I thought I'd make someone aware of this as it's something I can replicate with a number of PCs here so I'm guessing that the effects would be the same elsewhere as well. After the first image is shown the rest appear to continue at random, it's just that the first one is always the same.
Once again, it's pretty minor and it doesn't even annoy me but I figured someone might care. I've been using XnView since the days when it would fit on a floppy and still have room left over. (In fact I have a number of older versions kicking about still.)
The name of the image that it always starts with is 989898.jpg just in case that's important.
Anyhow, thanks for the great product and for sticking around for so many years.
UnknownUser
Possible bug: Random in slide show is not random?
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Re: Possible bug: Random in slide show is not random?
Always the same, strange, i'll check...UnknownUser wrote:When I start a slideshow - not a saved one or anything - there's a couple thousand photos that are loaded. I have, of course, selected random. (This is very minor.) The very first image is the same exact image every single time. I don't really care that it is but I thought I'd make someone aware of this as it's something I can replicate with a number of PCs here so I'm guessing that the effects would be the same elsewhere as well. After the first image is shown the rest appear to continue at random, it's just that the first one is always the same.
Pierre.
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UnknownUser
I can confirm that it does the same thing even with an entirely new set of images. I copied a bunch of family photos and used that as my slide show and the same thing happened. I haven't figured out the method used (I suppose I could if I'm able to and it's wanted) but if I rename the photo that it was starting with it will find a new one and will start using that as the default start image. (I'm not sure if that term works or not but it makes sense to me so I'm hoping that it will make sense to you all as well.)
Anyhow, I'm pretty sure this is a bug. What I do not know is if it's isolated with this version or if it has always been this way. I'd just never noticed it before. It's a small bug and one that I don't think I'd devote a lot of time to.
As an interesting side note the usage of the word "bug" to describe computer errors is accurate. Back in the days of mainframe servers with tubes and when they occupied giant rooms they really did have issues with insects getting into the works. Finding a bug was in fact quite common when there was a problem and the term has stuck since. Squished bugs on card readers meant that the card would need to be repunched, often by hand. Diagnosing bugs was a lot more disgusting then I'm sure. The above could be an urban myth but given that the story is plausable and was given to me in not one but two different college campuses and has been demonstrated to be reasonably true by people older than I I'm inclined to believe it's authenticity.
/end digression
UnknownUser
Anyhow, I'm pretty sure this is a bug. What I do not know is if it's isolated with this version or if it has always been this way. I'd just never noticed it before. It's a small bug and one that I don't think I'd devote a lot of time to.
As an interesting side note the usage of the word "bug" to describe computer errors is accurate. Back in the days of mainframe servers with tubes and when they occupied giant rooms they really did have issues with insects getting into the works. Finding a bug was in fact quite common when there was a problem and the term has stuck since. Squished bugs on card readers meant that the card would need to be repunched, often by hand. Diagnosing bugs was a lot more disgusting then I'm sure. The above could be an urban myth but given that the story is plausable and was given to me in not one but two different college campuses and has been demonstrated to be reasonably true by people older than I I'm inclined to believe it's authenticity.
/end digression
UnknownUser
I can't reproduce it, i have always a random image as first one...UnknownUser wrote:I can confirm that it does the same thing even with an entirely new set of images. I copied a bunch of family photos and used that as my slide show and the same thing happened. I haven't figured out the method used (I suppose I could if I'm able to and it's wanted) but if I rename the photo that it was starting with it will find a new one and will start using that as the default start image. (I'm not sure if that term works or not but it makes sense to me so I'm hoping that it will make sense to you all as well.)
Anyhow, I'm pretty sure this is a bug. What I do not know is if it's isolated with this version or if it has always been this way. I'd just never noticed it before. It's a small bug and one that I don't think I'd devote a lot of time to.
Pierre.
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UnknownUser
Yes, stopping it means it's still there.
Take a few folders. Put them all in one folder. Put images in each folder.
*bad visual coming and too lazy to use the list command*
Family Photos
- Vacation 03
- Falls001.jpg
- Falls002.jpg
- 1Park.jpg
- Vacation 04
- BC001.jpg
- BC002.jpg
- Vacation 05
- Park001
- Park002
Now, in the top most folder... We stopped at a park. I used a different naming convention for it... No matter what I do I'll get the same (again not a saved slide show or anything) image, in this case 1Park.jpg has opted to be the first one, at the start of each showing. After that it continues at random.
Renaming the image now to see if it will matter...
Hah...
Okay... It starts, always, with the very first image (if ordered via name in details view) in the first folder ordered by name.
So,
Folder 1
1.jpg
Folder 2
1.jpg
Folder 3
1.jpg
It will always start with Folder 1 > 1.jpg and in fact just happily did so with that exact format above.
I suppose you could say, it's not a bug - it's a feature and it means you can intentionally name an image to be the first one to start so you can have a welcome image for your slideshow.
Hmm... That's a good idea. Anyhow it reproduces here on a few different PCs. I suppose I *could* try to reproduce it on a few other PCs if need be as all of the ones it's being used on are AMD with the slowest being a 3200+ so it *could* be that it would work fine on an Intel CPU??? Any ideas on that? I'll happily test it if you want... I'm busy some/most of the time but for the most part I'm willing to at least try to offer as much information as I'm able to. I've done a vast variety of betas over the ages so it's only natural to report bugs that I find here and the likes. Hopefully I'm able to give enough information to reproduce this unless, of course, it's just mine.
I'll try updating to the 1.80.3 at some point as well, that might make a difference.
UnknownUser
Take a few folders. Put them all in one folder. Put images in each folder.
*bad visual coming and too lazy to use the list command*
Family Photos
- Vacation 03
- Falls001.jpg
- Falls002.jpg
- 1Park.jpg
- Vacation 04
- BC001.jpg
- BC002.jpg
- Vacation 05
- Park001
- Park002
Now, in the top most folder... We stopped at a park. I used a different naming convention for it... No matter what I do I'll get the same (again not a saved slide show or anything) image, in this case 1Park.jpg has opted to be the first one, at the start of each showing. After that it continues at random.
Renaming the image now to see if it will matter...
Hah...
Okay... It starts, always, with the very first image (if ordered via name in details view) in the first folder ordered by name.
So,
Folder 1
1.jpg
Folder 2
1.jpg
Folder 3
1.jpg
It will always start with Folder 1 > 1.jpg and in fact just happily did so with that exact format above.
I suppose you could say, it's not a bug - it's a feature and it means you can intentionally name an image to be the first one to start so you can have a welcome image for your slideshow.
Hmm... That's a good idea. Anyhow it reproduces here on a few different PCs. I suppose I *could* try to reproduce it on a few other PCs if need be as all of the ones it's being used on are AMD with the slowest being a 3200+ so it *could* be that it would work fine on an Intel CPU??? Any ideas on that? I'll happily test it if you want... I'm busy some/most of the time but for the most part I'm willing to at least try to offer as much information as I'm able to. I've done a vast variety of betas over the ages so it's only natural to report bugs that I find here and the likes. Hopefully I'm able to give enough information to reproduce this unless, of course, it's just mine.
I'll try updating to the 1.80.3 at some point as well, that might make a difference.
UnknownUser