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XnTriq
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by XnTriq » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:00 am
I've been using v1.8 for years now. It's the perfect companion to XnView. The command-line version can be
integrated into XnView's toolbar.
Hadrien Nilsson wrote:
Clean your PNG files of useless or wrong information.
Make your PNG files smaller.
Convert into PNG other lossless image formats (BMP, GIF, TGA).
Create PNG screenshots and make them easily available.
Perform all those tasks in the simpliest and most productive way.
PngOptimizer 2.0 (25/Apr/2011)
new: support for APNG for both optimization and conversion (animated GIFs)
new: x64 version
new: PNG options moved to their own dialog window
new: option to ignore animated GIFs
new: option to keep original file date and time
new: option to force background color (bkGD chunk)
new: option to keep or force textual information (tEXt chunk)
new: always on top option for the main window in the contextual menu
new: suggested screenshot filename now keeps leading "0" for file number (file 001.png, file 002.png...)
new: suggested screenshot filename now accepts "-" as a number separator (file-01.png file-02.png...)
change: AvoidGreyWithSimpleTransparency is now disabled by default (was for IE6 compatibility)
change: keyboard shortcut to clear the list is slightly less complicated: Ctrl+Delete instead of Ctrl+Shift+Delete
misc: better results with some cases of indexed color images
misc: updated ZLib 1.2.3 to 1.2.5 (compression library)
fixed: bad % reported for large files
fixed: hangs at startup when loading an empty configuration file (PngOptimizer.ini)
fixed: could not load GIFs containing non-Netscape application extensions blocks (like XMP data from Photoshop CS)
fixed: could not load GIFs with a compressed block ending with a terminator instead of an end-of-information code
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by eL_PuSHeR » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:19 am
Ken Silverman's PNGOut or
Cosmin Truta's OptiPNG are better in my humble opinion. I didn't try the command-line version, but the GUI one is really awful.
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thibaud
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by thibaud » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:21 am
I have to disagree, here is a short comparaison I did (win 7 x64|i7 980x|24GB RAM)
A.PRICE:
PngOptimizer: Open source (GNU)
PNGOut: 15$ to 30$
OptiPng: Open source.(zlib/libpng)
B.COMPATIBILITY:
PngOptimizer: x86 & X64 | Reads: PNG, GIF, BMP, TGA.
PNGOut: x86 only | Reads: PNG, GIF, TIFF, BMP, JPG.
OptiPng: x86 only | Reads: PNG, GIF, BMP, PNM, TIFF.
C.PERFORMANCE (55 PNG files processed | 487KB) :
PngOptimizer: 2.5 sec | 342KB (70,4% of original)
PNGOut: 24 sec | 372KB (76,4% of original)
OptiPng: 4 Minutes 22 sec | 476KB (97,9% of original)
I believe you may have judge PngOptimizer a bit too quickly.
Focusing your judgement on a gui (which btw is near perfect | how can you find a design flaw in a bare naked window ?) can be seriously misleading.
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by Drahken » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:39 pm
Your price comparison isn't entirely accurate. There is indeed a commercial GUI version of PNGout (I didn't check the price, but I suspect your 15~30 is correct). However, the commandline version is free, plus there is a free GUI available for it (
http://pnggauntlet.com/ ), plus (more importantly) it is available as a free plugin for xnview.
...speaking of which, xnview's PNG export functions are quite effective & infinitely faster than PNGout (I haven't tried the other 2 progs), just experiment with the different filters for better results.
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eL_PuSHeR
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by eL_PuSHeR » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:57 am
One thing I didn't like is that PngOptimizer removed the resolution tag from the PNG processed. Maybe the command-line version has some option to keep some tags.
And yeah, I admit PNGOut can be quite slow.
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DOS386
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by DOS386 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:05 am
Minimal test: PngOptimizer beats OPTIPNG but inferior to PNGOUT (16 col's).
PngOptimizer (CL) flaws:
- no progress indicator
- very little info
PngOptimizer benefits:
- can also optimize APNG reportedly (untested)
x86 only
doesn't it work for you ???
[*]PngOptimizer: 2.5 sec | 342KB (70,4% of original)
[*]PNGOut: 24 sec | 372KB (76,4% of original)
[*]OptiPng: 4 Minutes 22 sec | 476KB (97,9% of original) [/list]
Please submit some PNG exposing PngOptimizer to beat PNGOUT.
There is indeed no WinZIP under my rock.
DOS386
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by DOS386 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:18 am
I wrote:
Minimal test: PngOptimizer beats OPTIPNG
far not always ...
thibaud wrote: [*]PngOptimizer: 2.5 sec | 342KB (70,4% of original)
[*]PNGOut: 24 sec | 372KB (76,4% of original)
[*]OptiPng: 4 Minutes 22 sec | 476KB (97,9% of original) [/list]
Most likely you swapped the results from PngOptimizer and PNGOut
Code: Select all
921'654 Original BMP 24bpp
after LIBPNG/PO/PNGOUT/OP only:
433'833 LIBPNG -9
433'188 PO
430'300 PNGOUT (rare missguess "/f5")
409'796 OP -o7 (brutes out "/f1")
392'538 PNGOUT /f1 | !!! WINNER !!!
after DEFLOPT additionally:
432'810 LIBPNG -9
432'810 PO | !!! IDENTICAL to LIBPNG -9 above !!!
430'282 PNGOUT (rare missguess "/f5")
408'637 OP -o7 (brutes out "/f1")
392'525 PNGOUT /f1 | !!! WINNER !!!
To sum it up, PngOptimizer seems to be far inferior to PNGOUT and still a bit inferior to OPTIPNG.
About PngOptimizer's AGIF->APNG conversions, the output is good is some cases but bad in other cases.
There is indeed no WinZIP under my rock.
thibaud
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by thibaud » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:37 am
DOS386 wrote:
Most likely you swapped the results from PngOptimizer and PNGOut
I didn't swap any results!
please note that my test was run
not with one particular BMP but with 55 png (a good number of them had transparency).
also, you don't seem to provide processing time, which I believe is quite relevant too.
btw, I never stated Pngoptimizer "was far superior" or "beated" anything, I try to avoid to make bold statement like theses. I was merely trying to provide numbers.
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by XnTriq » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:15 pm
PngOptimizer v2.1 (09/Jun/2012):
new: option to keep or force pixel physical dimensions (pHYs chunk)
new: better compatibility for old Windows versions (NT based)
new: Windows Seven taskbar icon now shows progression of an optimization
new: better automatic dialogs placement when near screen borders, near taskbar or with multiple monitors
new: the list is now scrollable with the keyboard
new: "Done" written at the end of multiple files optimization
new: screenshot directory dialog can be resized
PngOptimizer v2.2 (09/Sep/2012):
new: support of the ".apng" file extension
fixed: only lower case file extensions were managed. The extension case is not relevant anymore.
DOS386
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by DOS386 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:39 pm
XnTriq wrote (1/2 year after the release) :
PngOptimizer v2.2 (09/Sep/2012)
Commandline version still exists ... changes are very minor, no engine improvements.
There is indeed no WinZIP under my rock.
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by XnTriq » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:15 am
PngOptimizer v2.3 ( 29/May/2013)
new: multithreaded optimization for faster processing on multicore CPUs
new: better optimization in some cases of greyscale images
misc: updated ZLib 1.2.5 to 1.2.7 (compression library)
DOS386
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by DOS386 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:01 am
The changes seem very minor again.
XnTriq wrote: new: multithreaded optimization for faster processing on multi
new: better optimization in some cases of greyscale images
misc: updated ZLib 1.2.5 to 1.2.7 (compression library)
Why not use
zopfli ? Then the author could finally beat PNGOUT and OPTIPNG
There is indeed no WinZIP under my rock.
thibaud
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by thibaud » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:32 am
DOS386 wrote: The changes seem very minor again.
XnTriq wrote: new: multithreaded optimization for faster processing on multi
new: better optimization in some cases of greyscale images
misc: updated ZLib 1.2.5 to 1.2.7 (compression library)
Why not use
zopfli ? Then the author could finally beat PNGOUT and OPTIPNG
I suppose because performance isn't solely related to the compression (size reduction) ratio.
Processing time is an important factor too.
100x slower ! for a 5% gain definitively isn't an overall improvement in my book.
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by XnTriq » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:00 pm
PngOptimizer v2.4 (18/May/2014)
misc: updated source code for Visual Studio 2012
misc: welcome message is centered and appears only when the log window is empty
fixed: some errors found with VS2012 static analysis tool
fixed: small UI problem in the screenshots dialog
change: removed batch summary for single file
PngOptimizer v2.4.1 (25/May/2014)
fixed: Windows XP compatibility for 32 bits build
PngOptimizer v2.4.2 (08/Jun/2014)
fixed: x64 build failed to open dialog boxes on Windows 8
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by XnTriq » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:00 pm
PngOptimizer v2.4.3 (24/Jul/2016)
misc: updated file structure for git first commit
PngOptimizer v2.5 (09/Ovt/2016)
misc: update code for GTK+ version
misc: reorganize Windows code for multiplatform support
misc: update distrib script to create a .deb package