Ratings: Sort order

[helmut]

In alpha 2 there's the ratings have been introduced. Using View > Ratings the user can give each image a rating ranging from 1 ... 5.

I'm not sure whether I will use this feature, but I guess it is a good enhancement.

Currently, when using the sort order "Rating", the images are sorted as follows:

1. Images with no rating
2. Images with rating 1
...
6. Image with rating 5

From my point of view, images that are not rated at all have no "points"/score and rate even worse than 5. So I'd expect a sorting like this:

1. Images with rating 1
...
5. Image with rating 5
6. Images with no rating

[xnview]

In alpha 2 there's the ratings have been introduced. Using View > Ratings the user can give each image a rating ranging from 1 ... 5.

I'm not sure whether I will use this feature, but I guess it is a good enhancement.

Currently, when using the sort order "Rating", the images are sorted as follows:

1. Images with no rating
2. Images with rating 1
...
6. Image with rating 5

From my point of view, images that are not rated at all have no "points"/score and rate even worse than 5. So I'd expect a sorting like this:

1. Images with rating 1
...
5. Image with rating 5
6. Images with no rating

But this sort is not 'ascending'!

[helmut]

But this sort is not 'ascending'!

But it's what users would expect and what is useful.

Note:
Alphabetic sorting versus numeric sorting was a similar issue and what users prefer and what we have now is pretty clear:
1_abc
22_xxx
2_def
3_def

vs.

1_abc
2_def
3_def
22_xxx

[Troken]

Are you two speaking of the same thing? Is 1=best and 5=worst in Germany/France, or is it the opposite? In Sweden, many classify 5 as the best and 1 as worst, due to an old grading-system at school. But I suspect that other countries may have it the other way round, which makes 1=best etc.

So numbers can become confusing .
Pierre, have you considered alternatives to colors and numbers?
An alternative example

Don't think anybody can mis-interpret this rating, but maybe it doesn't fit with thumbnails (as you can see, the image shows a list).

[marsh]

I like the current order. 0 to 5. 0 being unrated. 5 being highest. I think the cold to hot colour scale matches it perfectly. You cannot have ascending/descending order without this (as Pierre said).

But this sort is not 'ascending'!

But it's what users would expect and what is useful.

What user's often expect is other software though (instead of looking at feature according to its own merit).

[xnview]

I like the current order. 0 to 5. 0 being unrated. 5 being highest. I think the cold to hot colour scale matches it perfectly. You cannot have ascending/descending order without this (as Pierre said).

So every one agree with 1->Blue, 5->Red?

[Maiger]

I think the numbers for rating should go from 1...5 like user 'marsh' said. I also like the example from user 'Trocken' with the 1 to 5 stars symbols. This gives you information without confusion. Also the color is a good indication which should go from red (bad) to green (good).

Why not using a symbol that combines all these three indicators.

Example:



Regards, Gerhard

[xnview]

I think the numbers for rating should go from 1...5 like user 'marsh' said. I also like the example from user 'Trocken' with the 1 to 5 stars symbols. This gives you information without confusion. Also the color is a good indication which should go from red (bad) to green (good).

Why not using a symbol that combines all these three indicators.

Example:

A little wide, but will be better i think!

[Maiger]

I reduced the size by 3 pixel.
Now it has the same size as the EXIF or IPTC symbol.



Regards, Gerhard

[Troken]

I reduced the size by 3 pixel.

I like that! Really smart colours, green = good, everyone knows that! Why didn't I think of it!



It may be hard to see the numbers on a monitor with really high resolution, but the colours and the bar says it all.

[helmut]

At German schools scores range from 1 (very good) to 6 (not sufficient), this is probably why the current sorting looked wrong to me. Still I'd suggest to make "ascending sort" sort from best to worst, I think most people would want to see their best rated images at top.

Another option would be changing sort order from ascending to ascending when choosing "sort by rating", but I find think this would confuse things.

Gerhards score bar is really a very good idea which makes scoring very clear.

[Dreamer]

At German schools scores range from 1 (very good) to 6 (not sufficient), this is probably why the current sorting looked wrong to me. Still I'd suggest to make "ascending sort" sort from best to worst, I think most people would want to see their best rated images at top.

I agree.

Gerhards score bar is really a very good idea which makes scoring very clear.

Yes it's clear, but it doesn't look very good - and I'm not sure how it will be in higher resolutions...

[xnview]

I reduced the size by 3 pixel.

I like that! Really smart colours, green = good, everyone knows that! Why didn't I think of it!



It may be hard to see the numbers on a monitor with really high resolution, but the colours and the bar says it all.

But if i add labels as suggested by nightflyer http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=9498, rating icons will be without colors, a number or stars perhaps...

[Maiger]

I think the color is very important.
http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?p=36428#36428

If the numbers are too small and/or the symbols
are too wide, what's about this?


Regards, Gerhard

[Dreamer]

I don't know... It will be always good for some, bad for others. Perhaps an option??

#1



#2

The same as above but vice versa bad ... good:

5 4 3 2 1

#3 / #4

The same as #1 and #2, but no colors.