Picasa and Windows Live Photogallery cannot read metadata

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Picasa and Windows Live Photogallery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:33 pm

Hi,
I tried XnViewMP 0.32 (Linux - Kubuntu 10.10) for editing metadata with czech characters. I wrote creator and keywords.
I can correctly read it in XnViewMP 0.32 in Windows version.
I can correctly read it in Zoner Photo Studio.
But I have problem in Picasa (last version - 3.8). I can see creator, but I cannot see keywords.
In Windows Live Photostudio I cannot see anythink.

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:55 pm

In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa is written: "According to Picasa Readme,[8] Picasa can parse XMP data. However, it cannot search local files for existing XMP keywords."
I do not understand this sentence.

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by xnview » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:42 pm

You XnViewMP in XMP mode?
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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:23 pm

I tried "XMP" and "XMP, update or create IPTC".

In version 0.33 it looks that IPTC is written ok, because I see it in Picasa, but XMP is broken completely see: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=21480

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:13 pm

In version 0.34 I cannot see tags (I can see only author "byline") again :(.

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by xnview » Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:50 pm

GeBu wrote:In version 0.34 I cannot see tags (I can see only author "byline") again :(.
Could you send me a sample file?
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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:24 am

Do you want to send files "tagged" by Picasa and WLP too?
xnview wrote:Could you send me a sample file?

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:13 pm

I made some tests.
I found program GeoSetter: http://www.geosetter.de/en and try set metadatas by them.
I tried set IPTC to this coding by this software: ANSI CP-1250 Windows-1250, ISO 8859-2, UTF-8.

Results in Windows XP Proffesional Czech:
Zoner Media Explorer can show every setting metadatas correctly.
ANSI CP-1250 Windows-1250: Windows Live Photogallery (WLP) is ok, XnViewMP is ok (if Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding is set to Windows-1250), Picasa is not correct.
ISO 8859-2: WLP metadat 2x first is ok, second is not, XnViewMP is ok (if Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding is set to ISO 8859-2), Picasa keywords are ok, creator is not correctly.
utf-8: WLP metadat 2x first is ok, XnViewMP is not correct, Picasa is ok.

Results in Linux Kubuntu 10.10:
utf-8: Gwenview is ok, XnViewMP is ok if Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding is set to locale.
ANSI CP-1250 Windows-1250: XnViewMP is ok if Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding is set to Windows-1250.
ISO 8859-2: XnViewMP is ok if Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding is set to ISO 8859-2.

I think the best way is to set to utf-8. Why is not option to read utf-8 in XnViewMP Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding? It is need to Windows.

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by xnview » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:12 pm

I'll check the problem...
GeBu wrote: I think the best way is to set to utf-8. Why is not option to read utf-8 in XnViewMP Tools/Settings/Metadata/IPTC Encoding/Default IPTC encoding? It is need to Windows.
Yes, the best is to use utf8 to write IPTC. There is no need of a utf8 setting to read IPTC, because we have this information in the IPTC data (local or utf8)
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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by GeBu » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:39 pm

xnview wrote:I'll check the problem...
Thanks.
xnview wrote:There is no need of a utf8 setting to read IPTC, because we have this information in the IPTC data (local or utf8)
On Windows I cannot in XnView correctly read IPTC encoded to UTF-8 by GeoSetter. Maybe I do not understand.

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by xnview » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:43 pm

xnview wrote:There is no need of a utf8 setting to read IPTC, because we have this information in the IPTC data (local or utf8)
On Windows I cannot in XnView correctly read IPTC encoded to UTF-8 by GeoSetter. Maybe I do not understand.
There is a little problem with IPTC/utf8 in the IPTC info panel. For your example made with GeoSetter, the iptc seems not to be written correctly... Exiftool has the same problem... I'll check...
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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogalery cannot read metadata

Post by xnview » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:40 am

Please check XnViewMP 0.35
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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogallery cannot read metadat

Post by GeBu » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:22 pm

I tried Picasa and Windows Live Photogallery and XMP works. Thanks.

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Re: Picasa and Windows Live Photogallery cannot read metadat

Post by caesarvic » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:08 am

Hello,
In my humble opinion the fact is that XnViewMP .035 for ubuntu always writes IPTC keyword in UTF-8 encoding (in spite of any settings).
The best way to visualize that problem is through viewing a tiny jpg picture with test keyword and an hexa editor.
A lot of visualization software can't read UTF-8 keywords
carnussien

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