Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file list

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Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file list

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I propose making the small toolbar filter subordinate, secondary to the settings' file list.
While in v.1.9, it acts more like an override. The suggestion is for it to be more of a filter.

Ex.
All = All files chosen in file list.
Images = Only images after file list is applied. (Ditto for videos, archives, sounds)
Override = A single unfiltered equivalent to current "all" override.

Advantages:
- It would encourage use of file list.
- No ambiguous custom item.

Thoughts?
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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Yes the current filter is not so good...

And if i remove 'visible' column of option/Filelist, and use checkbox directly in filter menu (Image, Audio, Video, ...)??
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So moving visible column to filter. Yes, that is direct and perfect? Maybe "[x]Invert selection" could go with that- as a quick look to see what is missing from list (such as broken jpeg, and others).
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What others think??
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Thoughts?
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Something like that:
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You choose directly in the popup menu which items do you want to see...
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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Re,
I propose making the small toolbar filter subordinate, secondary to the settings' file list.
Yes :!:
And if i remove 'visible' column of option/Filelist, and use checkbox directly in filter menu (Image, Audio, Video, ...)??

Not ! Customised /customized, should remain a priority :arrow: Default

- All others files !

Yes, if no influence/actions directly or indirectly DB (caps)! Unwanted files, DB weight, other ... How to be sure :?:
Invert selection" could go with that- as a quick look to see what is missing from list (such as broken jpeg, and others).
See, for example, the options for recording metadata :!:
I've always been afraid to change this option because of this :?

-I would say that any changes to the tool "Filter" (so be outside of the options set in the window "Settings / file list") should automatically block all possible entry in the lower data even if exclusion / Inclusion in many cases been set!
-The tool "Filter" to allow a search or facilitate the movement and viewing (XNV undeniable quality of) the entire folder tree of the PC and allows the application of different tools available if needed XNV !
(French)
-Je dirais que toutes modifications de l'outil "Filtre" (donc faites en-dehors des options fixées dans la fenêtre des "Paramètres/Liste des fichiers") devrait automatiquement bloquer toutes possibilité d'inscription dans la Basse de données même si, exclusion/Inclusion des dossiers à bien été paramétré !
-L'outil "Filtre" devant permettre une recherche ou faciliter le déplacement et le visionnage(qualité indéniable de XNV!) de l'ensemble de l'arborescence des dossiers du PC et permettant l'application des différents outils qu'offre XNV si nécessaire!
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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xnview wrote:Something like that:
I think this would be great. Also an option to set the activated filters either to show or hide files would be nice.
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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vommie wrote:
xnview wrote:Something like that:
I think this would be great. Also an option to set the activated filters either to show or hide files would be nice.
??? If you click on the filter, you activate/desactivate it
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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Perhaps a shorter menu would be better. That one is rather long (=inconvenient to use).

As in many other aspects of MP, the filter UI would benefit from rethought/redesign.

First thing would be support multiple named user filters instead of the inconvenient and confusing "Custom" filter.

One UI approach that is appealing would be for the user to right-click on a column in the sort header to display a context panel with which to select various filter values (the way Explorer does it in Vista and Win 7, or Excel in "Filter" mode). This is a tried and true UI design that works well.
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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xnview wrote:
vommie wrote:
xnview wrote:Something like that:
I think this would be great. Also an option to set the activated filters either to show or hide files would be nice.
??? If you click on the filter, you activate/desactivate it
You misunderstood me. :arrow: What I meant is the ability for the filter to switch into the opposite. E.g. if I select "Excellent" and "Videos", by default only matched files get shown. But it would be also nice to have an option, all other files get shown by hiding the matching files.
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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Sometimes that is called "Invert".
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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Ah, ok, even nicer - so only one menu entry would be needed ("Invert Filter" on/off).
JohnFredC wrote:Perhaps a shorter menu would be better. That one is rather long (=inconvenient to use).
Yes, the filters menu could take use of sub menus.

File Types --> Images, Audio, Video, ...
Ratings --> Excellent, Good, ...
Priority --> Important, Work, ...
etc

Possibly the File Types should stay in the root menu if this get implementated, as they are the most used filter types for sure.
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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JohnFredC wrote: One UI approach that is appealing would be for the user to right-click on a column in the sort header to display a context panel with which to select various filter values (the way Explorer does it in Vista and Win 7, or Excel in "Filter" mode). This is a tried and true UI design that works well.
You have a filter in windows explorer????
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Re: Rethinking small toolbar filter interaction with file li

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JohnFredC wrote:Perhaps a shorter menu would be better. That one is rather long (=inconvenient to use).
With Pierre's proposal I'm not sure it should be called a filter. A new icon for 'file list' with only those items would let the user know that significant changes would be expected. I think it is important for file management at lowest level not to be confused with more temporary organizing features (like the rating, metadata, search as has been mentioned).
vommie wrote:Ah, ok, even nicer - so only one menu entry would be needed ("Invert Filter" on/off).
One item to use often. The others more established. That is what I would like to see in any case.