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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:32 am

Getting no thumbnail is certainly an issue. However different than mine in this thread. The issue here is not getting a thumbnail at all.
The issue is that in single thumbnail mode, XnviewP creates a single thumbnail as it should. It does so for any seek position (percentage) I have set in setting.
But in 4 thumbnail mode although cappable, XnviewMP does not create 4 thumbnails.

If it can produce a thumbnail for any seek position, then it should be able to produce 4 thumbnails as well.

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by xnview » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:21 pm

jadO wrote:Getting no thumbnail is certainly an issue. However different than mine in this thread. The issue here is not getting a thumbnail at all.
The issue is that in single thumbnail mode, XnviewP creates a single thumbnail as it should. It does so for any seek position (percentage) I have set in setting.
But in 4 thumbnail mode although cappable, XnviewMP does not create 4 thumbnails.

If it can produce a thumbnail for any seek position, then it should be able to produce 4 thumbnails as well.
could you send me the video file? For video file, where the creation of 4 thumbs failed, i can't seek to any position too...
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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:48 pm

xnview wrote:could you send me the video file? For video file, where the creation of 4 thumbs failed, i can't seek to any position too...
Check out these linkt to download: http://keepvid.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw ... -ZSoZScqBU
http://keepvid.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww ... AtP7au_Q9w
http://keepvid.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw ... AtP7au_Q9w
http://keepvid.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw ... P6SlDSfcLE
http://keepvid.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw ... Hy6bBKu0j4

I have doubled checked again with new version. It seems that XnviewMP has issues jumping to all positions in single thumb mode. Which would be consistant with what you have said so far.
However still these videos are not corrupted or anything and they play perfectly in any player. So if there is an issue with seeking the correct position, why do these videos play perfectly, why can any player jump to any position of the videos and only XnviewMP can not?
This is what I don't understand. If a video does not play in Windows Media Player or Classic Player no wonder XnviewMP cannot play it. But if it plays in any other player without issue why XnViewMP cannot jump to correct positions ot produce thumbnails.

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by xnview » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:54 am

which format? MP4?
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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:15 pm

xnview wrote:which format? MP4?
Any format. It does not matter which one you choose to download.

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by xnview » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:23 am

i've tried, but % for frame has the same problem.
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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:11 am

xnview wrote:i've tried, but % for frame has the same problem.
That's why I wrote
jadO wrote:It seems that XnviewMP has issues jumping to all positions in single thumb mode. Which would be consistant with what you have said so far.
Still:
jadO wrote:However still these videos are not corrupted or anything and they play perfectly in any player. So if there is an issue with seeking the correct position, why do these videos play perfectly, why can any player jump to any position of the videos and only XnviewMP can not?
This is what I don't understand. If a video does not play in Windows Media Player or Classic Player no wonder XnviewMP cannot play it. But if it plays in any other player without issue why XnViewMP cannot jump to correct positions ot produce thumbnails.

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by xnview » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:02 pm

jadO wrote:
xnview wrote:i've tried, but % for frame has the same problem.
That's why I wrote
jadO wrote:It seems that XnviewMP has issues jumping to all positions in single thumb mode. Which would be consistant with what you have said so far.
yes, but i'm unable to seek to a position with these files... (i use win32 directx api)
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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:46 am

xnview wrote:yes, but i'm unable to seek to a position with these files... (i use win32 directx api)
Then maybe it is time to use something else?
I mentioned already the thumbnailer Icaros which has NONE of these issues with the files.

Try it for yourself. Download it: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/icaros.html
Add required extensions for the files that you have downloaded from the links and set offset to 99 percent.

Icaros will display the correct thumbnail for ANY video position that obviously XnviewMP can't. Icaros is using ffmpeg and I see no reason why XnviewMP could not use ffmpeg as well.

So either there should be a way to make the win32 directx api work. Or if this is not possible because it lacks functionality then ffmpeg should do the thumbnailing.
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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by xnview » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:48 pm

ok, if ffmpeg is installed, i'll use it. Currently if you have ffmpeg, same frame is extracted...
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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:42 pm

xnview wrote:ok, if ffmpeg is installed, i'll use it. Currently if you have ffmpeg, same frame is extracted...
Maybe we can have a setting to choose which thumbnailer to use and put ffmpeg.exe into a utils folder in application directory and then in can be used by the portable version as well.

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:53 am

Is this issue supposed to be resolved?
XnviewMP has still issues creating 4 thumbnails. This is weird because thumbnailer Icaros http://www.videohelp.com/software/Icaros does not seem to have these kind of seek problems.
So I am still waiting for this issue to be resolved as this feature is not working.

Could you please resolve this as it is terribly annoying.

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:34 am

*bump*

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Re: 4 thumbnails not working

Post by jadO » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:42 am

So by accident I have found out that for using ffmpeg to build thumbnails, you have to put it into the Addon folder.
Either I missed the anouncenment for that or there never was an anouncement for that change.

Now with that change done it is working much better than the previous built in version. 4 thumbnails that were not generated before are now being generated.
So I am asking myself why this it not the default method. There should be some function to download ffmpeg.exe and put it into the correct folder automatically and to start generating correct thumbnails with 1 click.

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