MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

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MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by JohnFredC » Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:10 pm

To reproduce:

1. Display the browser
2. Options->Thumbnail->Appearance->Show Filename in thumbnail mode = OFF
3. View->View As->Thumbnail
4. Select a thumb or two...
5. Which thumbs are selected?
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by Clo » Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:22 pm

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:) Hello John !

• Here, I get a selection mark, but as a narrow frame set INSIDE the thumbnail(s) just around the pattern,
and not outside further in the cell as expected.
- Moreover, there's no “selection colour” background like in 1.9x, only that poor frame… :(

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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by oops66 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:30 pm

Hello,
I also prefer the colored background like in 1.9x instead the narrow frame around the thumbnail in MP0.26L
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:19 am

IMO, the selection indicator should be clearly visible with any thumbnail design.

In this view, six thumbs are selected. Can you tell which ones?

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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by marsh » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:21 am

JohnFredC wrote:IMO, the selection indicator should be clearly visible with any thumbnail design.
I agree. Pierre mentioned that it is realated to shadow at another topic.
What about:
-Turn those hovering icons at upper-left from grey to blue? Collecting them as each item is selected. So then more color change is seen.
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by Clo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:28 am

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:) Hello B. !

• There is worse : I tried to disable the drop shadow, then there is not any selection mark, not even the blue frame ! :| :bug:
- The cell is highlighted when the mouse hovers it, but that doesn't remain, it vanishes as soon as you move the cursor over another cell (even clicking on before).

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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:16 pm

An adjustment to the thumb image itself (in addition to the already-implemented highlights in the thumbnail's cartouche) might work well to indicate selection.

For instance, here the six selected files (see my post, above) have been "colorized":

Selection invisible:

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Selection visible:

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This would not work well for images that match the colorization chosen, but perhaps the effect could be user selectable...
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by Clo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:43 pm

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:) Hello John !

• This could be a solution, but it makes the image less meaningful and hard to spot… We could also imagine, for instance :
1. Make the selected thumb nail¦s blinking (F=1Hz…),
2. Draw an animated frame around (marching ants), having of course a colour reverse of the current BG one…

What do you think ?

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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:52 pm

Hi Clo...

I'm not a big fan of marching ants or blinking in the browser.

Maybe draw/superimpose a rectangle ON TOP of the thumb image (not the thumb cartouche)? The rectangle would not be part of the thumbnail cartouche design itself, but painted on top...

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User-selectable color, of course. 8)
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by Clo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:08 pm

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:) Again…
I'm not a big fan of marching ants or blinking in the browser. …
• I'm not either, but if easy to implement, I could live with…

- The frames you show here are OK, and could replace the drop shadow when selected… They could solve the issue of no mark at all when the shade is OFF, like I said above…

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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by marsh » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:09 pm

Good morning all,
Applying a change to the miniature makes me curious about the thumbnail gamma effect- having some similarities to crop-mask.

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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by oops66 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:04 pm

marsh wrote:...Turn those hovering icons at upper-left from grey to blue?...
+1, for me this solution is good enough, (and probably easy to do ?)
So turning the first hovering icon at upper-left (the square for tag) from white-gray to blue (or an other custom color) is a good idea I think. ?

FI: the only limitation is than: Tag is a red cross inside the first (gray or blue or custom) upper-left square icon. so the custom color must not be the same red color. (except if the Tag color cross can be customized too)
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:56 pm

Hi Clo!
could replace the drop shadow when selected…
That may depend how easy it is for Pierre to temporarily designate a different thumbnail style for the selected thumbs only, without changing all of the others at the same time...
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by oops66 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:22 pm

...Or maybe the easiest solution for Pierre is to leave a small pixel area in the bottom of the thumbnails at the same place of the Filename area ( even if: Options->Thumbnail->Appearance->Show Filename in thumbnail mode = OFF ) ?
FI: This solution is good enough for me too.
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Re: MP 0.26.1w: Selection invisible if no thumb labels/filenames

Post by JohnFredC » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:43 pm

Like this?

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