FullScreen <> Browser switching

[Surge]

I posted after installing 0.82, nothing changed...

[Erixx haxx]

Hello:

I posted after installing 0.82, nothing changed...

Can you check that your settings are set right.
The bottom of this post explains: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=33691

Let us know..

[xnview]

I posted after installing 0.82, nothing changed...

the fix is to start XnViewMP in fullscreen - edit mode. You would like in XnViewmp to be able to have 'Browser > Fullscreen (edit mode) > Viewer', right?

[Surge]

No, I only want to switch between Browser > (viewer) Fullscreen, never viewer non-fullscreen.
If I set the 'mode when starting with a file' to 'Fullscreen - Browser' it works ok, but it's unusable. The browser takes way more to initialize and the image opens around 2-3 seconds after clicking it in explorer.

Basically the fix would be to start the file with 'Fullscreen - Viewer' so that it loads instantly, but have a switching mode 'Browser <> (viewer) Fullscreen' (never viewer/non-fullscreen).

[Lee James]

Sorry if this is offtopic, but I have a question. I use XnView Classic and have it set up to launch images fullscreen then switch between fullscreen and browser. However, this means I can't do a "select zoom" as that feature doesn't work in fullscreen. Is it possible in MP to use "select zoom" while in fullscreen? If so I would be thinking about moving to MP because zooming is very important to me and I use it a lot. Also, is MP slower? And if not, why is Classic still popular?

[Erixx haxx]

Hello:

All I can say, is for question #1, Yes. That's how I use it.
Although right now is a bug with the selection grid always showing and defaults to "on" after restarts. You can go to crop and turn it off for the session though.

[Lee James]

Thanks Erixx

[xnview]

If I set the 'mode when starting with a file' to 'Fullscreen - Browser' it works ok, but it's unusable. The browser takes way more to initialize and the image opens around 2-3 seconds after clicking it in explorer.

You have to wait 3 secs when using start in 'Fullscreen - Browser'??
How many files do you have in the folder?

[Aybee]

Hello, this still did not work with

XnViewMP
Version 0.83 x64 (Oct 3 2016)
on Windows 10

I would like to test the beta 0.84 but it's not possible to find a beta version.

Here again I like to easily describe what all the previous speakers like to achieve including me.

First of all we never want the Viewer mode.

1. Double click in windows explorer on an image => Fullscreen (XnViewMP was closed and opens in Fullscreen)
2. Double click on that Fullscreen => Browser (actually this will open the Viewer)
3. Double click on an image in Browser => Fullscreen
4. go on with 2.

There is no setting to achieve this behaviour so I think there is a missing option Browser<>Fullscreen. I'm missing this for a long time. I think in earlier XnView Classic this was possible.

Hope you will get this to work.

Best regards Aybee

[Erixx haxx]

Hello:

Can you see if the Screenshots in the bottom of this post helps, or is this not what you mean.

http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=33691

[Aybee]

Thank you very much. This seems to work now by following your hint.

I thought I had tried all settings and I even knew of this setting in Startup. Somehow it was my fault, sorry.

[AyeBraine]

Hi, I'll have to resurrect this thread. There is an additional bug not mentioned here. The summary is at the end of message.

I'm using XnView MP 0.96.2 64bits (May 5 2020). The issue persists in exactly the same way that's been described since 2014, only with additional bug. Was recently Windows 7, now Windows 10 x64. First, the old issue that I'm trying to work around.

(0. Set the Switching mode to Browser <> Fullscreen | Viewer <> Fullscreen.)
1. Open an image file directly through file association in Windows Explorer. The image opens in Fullscreen.
2. Press the button that's set in "Switching" to Browser <> Fullscreen | Viewer <> Fullscreen mode, while seeing image in Fullscreen.
3. XnView takes you to VIEWER. More presses of the same button repeat the cycle (Viewer <> Fullscreen). Which is, well, exactly as described, but completely undesirable (you can't get to browser)*.
4. The only way to open browser is to press the toolbar icon or use another "Switching" control to cycle through all three to arrive at Browser.
5. When in Browser, the same control cycles correctly (Browser <> Fullscreen, always; it never takes you to Viewer from Fullscreen anymore).

* Note that in #5, "Fullscreen <> Viewer" never comes into effect, which defeats the purpose of even having this setting: in #2, it gets in the way, but later, when using Fullscreen normally, you can't utilize it even if you wanted.

Now, the important addition.

1. Set a keyboard shortcut for Viewer mode, function "Browse". Doesn't matter which button*, let's say . (numpad period).
2. Open an image file directly from Explorer. It opens in Fullscreen.
3. Press the keybind ("."). Browser opens in FORCED full-screen mode. There are no controls to minimize, resize, or close the window, and no taskbar visible. No key presses can take you out of this mode, except Ctrl-F11 / Titlebar (with exceptions, see below).
4. In some cases, turning Titlebar ON (through menu or Ctrl-F11) fixes Browser and it resizes back to normal (apparently because the "forced fullscreen" doesn't have a titlebar). But most often it doesn't work. This also breaks XnView in a few other ways that prevent going back to normal:

5. Pressing ESC to close the program (with ESC set to "Always" close all modes) does not work. Eventually ESC closes the Browser, BUT then takes you to Fullscreen image, another ESC press brings you to Viewer mode, and another ESC press closes the program (as if these were three different instances of XnView).
5. Browser does not respond immediately to ESC or Ctrl-F11. ESC seems to work only after a few presses (not exaggeration: it's 2-3 presses with no effect), like it has wrong focus. Ctrl-F11 also doesn't work. You need to click around, and open a file and then get back to browser to restore focus and make shortcuts like Ctrl-F11 work, but only after a few presses again. The ESC bug above still manifests.
6. NOTE: If you press the keybind for Browse from windowed Viewer, everything works great.

(* I used Enter at first, and thought it interferes with default "Switching" shortcut — but the bug worked the same with other keybinds).

TL;DR — Issues raised:

1. The Browser <> Fullscreen | Viewer <> Fullscreen mode sort of contradicts itself. Its second part (Viewer-Fullscreen) works when launched through a file, but not afterwards — unless you use another switching mode to get to windowed Viewer. I propose introducing the strict "Browser <> Fullscreen" switching mode, after all. Bypassing the Viewer completely (you can easily access it with another switching control!).

2. The "Browse" keyboard shorcut in Viewer mode COULD potentially resolve the situation in a workaround way (i.e. you'd always have an override, one-press route to Browser), but instead manifests a GUI bug and sort of breaks the instance.

Also, big thanks for this amazing, customizable and powerful piece of software, and thanks in advance if you decide to take a look at this.

[xnview]

I'm using XnView MP 0.96.2 64bits (May 5 2020). The issue persists in exactly the same way that's been described since 2014, only with additional bug. Was recently Windows 7, now Windows 10 x64. First, the old issue that I'm trying to work around.

you need to try the lastest version