XnView Classic vs XnView MP

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by Mixer » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:13 am

Mixer wrote:found bugs go to Mantis Bug Tracker database (who puts them there?)
And even bigger mystery is who removes them from there? Once registered, this issue http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=32356 has disappeared from database. This unwanted effect of interface control is still present in version 0.79. If this is what seemingly harmless slider can do, which checkbox in options secretly corrupts MFT then?
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False alert, it's still there, problem with cookies on my side.

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by xnview » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:01 pm

Brother Gabriel-Marie wrote:I think the big clencher is that Classic is faster.
faster when you open an image file from windows explorer, right. I need to check here.
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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by Brother Gabriel-Marie » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:48 am

xnview wrote:faster when you open an image file from windows explorer, right. I need to check here.
- Faster when MP navigates to a new folder or to a parent folder, especially if it hasn't cataloged it yet.
- Faster when you delete a bunch of files in the browser and then try to navigate

However, there must be some settings that cause this, too. MP on my laptop is much faster than the MP on my workstation (the workstation is more customized and has a lot more files).

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by xnview » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:11 pm

Brother Gabriel-Marie wrote: - Faster when MP navigates to a new folder or to a parent folder, especially if it hasn't cataloged it yet.
Really, Classic load first all thumbnails (can be long) before to be able to use UI, MP show UI and load thumbnails
faster when you open an image file from windows explorer, right. I need to check here.
do you have a lot of files in the folder?
- Classic displays icons in the Favourites panel (I made a post about this some time ago; apparently it was a difficult thing to achieve; but for me, icons mean instant visual recognition and I don't have read the folder names, so it is a boon for my workflow)
What do you means, there is icons in MP favorites??
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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by xnview » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:15 pm

Erixx haxx wrote: Tabs being cut in half or more and can not read them
could you post a screenshot?
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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by Erixx haxx » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:57 am

xnview wrote:could you post a screenshot?
Sure:
This is a simple example and gets much worse in different gui changes. I think the problem is that tabs in the center are not keeping at least a little padding,
Only the outer most tab should be getting cut to make room.
The letters should be centered and middle tabs have a min pad set so when you resize they can not clip.

Here:
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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by xnview » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:03 am

Erixx haxx wrote:
xnview wrote:could you post a screenshot?
Sure:
This is a simple example and gets much worse in different gui changes. I think the problem is that tabs in the center are not keeping at least a little padding,
Only the outer most tab should be getting cut to make room.
The letters should be centered and middle tabs have a min pad set so when you resize they can not clip.
in default theme, i have not that. Which theme do you use?
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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by oops66 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:48 am

xnview wrote:
Brother Gabriel-Marie wrote:I think the big clencher is that Classic is faster.
faster when you open an image file from windows explorer, right. I need to check here.
Hello,
I don't know if it is easy to do or not, but having XnViewMP running into multi-core (not only one) should be faster.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/l ... processor/
"Considerations in software design for multi-core multiprocessor architectures
Today's chip multithreaded, multi-core, multiprocessor systems provide software designers a great opportunity to achieve faster and higher throughput.However,there are a few key design considerations, if ignored, could result in hard-to-find performance issues and scalability bottlenecks.These key design considerations are discussed in this article..."
XnViewMP 0.82 Linux X64 - Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - X64

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by Erixx haxx » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:14 pm

xnview wrote:in default theme, i have not that. Which theme do you use?
I Have always used the dark theme. The default is way to bright for me.

I'm pretty sure it was happening in default theme too. I'll try and check later to see if it happens in default theme or just dark.

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by Erixx haxx » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:52 am

xnview wrote:in default theme, i have not that. Which theme do you use?
I Tried it.
You're right. It doesn't happen near as bad with the default theme.
I still don't like the way it clips words when you can see their is enough room for the letters, and how it takes letters from each tab
instead of only the longest tab first. Not as bad as the dark theme though.
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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by vicsharx » Mon May 02, 2016 12:48 pm

I have used both and I have both installed. I can not not use the classic one because it crashes too much for me. This was a problem in MP also in the past but not any more. It hardly crashes.


But I would love if it allows me to delete the folders that MP is visiting. I can delete in explorer the files that MP is visiting, but not the folders, even if I leave the folder. It forces me to shut down the program and open it again to be able to delete the folder. I'm talking about deleting with external programs, as explorer.

I would like also if I can select several images in MP and they appear tiled in the preview, as Adobe Bridge. Also that the floating preview window can be maximized. I lose a lot of time fiddling with his size when using it in secondary monitors. Double click will dock it instead maximize and I don't think there is alternative way to do it.


In general I can not work without MP. Periodically I check other image browsers (faststone, acdsee etc) but there is nothing equal for quick image browsing. Thanks a lot for this wonderful program.

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by shadowpower » Mon May 09, 2016 7:09 pm

vicsharx wrote:But I would love if it allows me to delete the folders that MP is visiting. I can delete in explorer the files that MP is visiting, but not the folders, even if I leave the folder. It forces me to shut down the program and open it again to be able to delete the folder. I'm talking about deleting with external programs, as explorer.
I'm pretty sure if you delete the folders/files inside then you can delete the folder (or at least that's what I do) if you were working inside it before.

I think that xnview mp has better customization but it still loses in speed to classic in some aspects like someone said. Also there are some tools that xnviewmp lacks or it's just done differently for example I prefer to use xnview classic to convert files because you can do multiple conversions at the same time (not just multiple folders but rather different settings for group of files)

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by vicsharx » Tue May 10, 2016 12:25 am

I can't. But it could be something related to my OS or other settings (using windows 10). I have occasionally that problem in other programs but not all, for example Zbrush.

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by bege » Sun May 22, 2016 5:54 pm

I went back to XnView Classic because
  • after saving a turned picture the size and quality was less than half in MP
  • I cannot change EXIF date in MP

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Re: XnView Classic vs XnView MP

Post by cday » Sun May 22, 2016 6:03 pm

bege wrote:I went back to XnView Classic because
  • after saving a turned picture the size and quality was less than half in MP
In XnView MP compression options have to be set in Browser | File > Format settings... for a technical reason that is currently hard to resolve...
bege wrote:
  • I cannot change EXIF date in MP
I don't know, but I think it should be possible in Browser | Tools > Metadata > Edit IPTC/XMP...

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