0.82: Naming of Sidecar files

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0.82: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by xnview » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:20 am

If we have a file dogs-vancouver-20150930-9350.cr2, the sidecar must be dogs-vancouver-20150930-9350.xmp or dogs-vancouver-20150930-9350.cr2.xmp??
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Re: Sidecar filename

Post by elfroggio » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:50 pm

That depends on the software that created the sidecar
  • lightroom/photoshop: strip the extension and replace it with .xmp
  • darktable: full filename + add xmp at the end (which I use on linux)
  • corel aftershot pro: full filename + add xmp at the end (which I also use on linux)
The reason is to have a separate sidecar for:
  • 123.cr2 ==> 123.cr2.xmp
  • 123.jpg ==> 123.jpg.xmp
  • 123.tif ==> 123.tif.xmp

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Re: Sidecar filename

Post by Justin » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:33 pm

elfroggio wrote:
The reason is to have a separate sidecar for:
  • 123.cr2 ==> 123.cr2.xmp
  • 123.jpg ==> 123.jpg.xmp
  • 123.tif ==> 123.tif.xmp
Absolutely agree with the above quote, better still, give the user the option of choosing their preference.

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Re: Sidecar filename

Post by helmut » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:25 am

There seems to be no real standard naming convention for sidecar files. I think by default XnView should find sidecar files with or without extension in the filename. And search order of XnView should be from specific to less specific.

Search for sidecar file:
1. <filename without extension>.<extension>.xmp
2. <filename without extension>.xmp

Example:
"blubber.cr2" -> Sidecar files could be named either "blubber.cr2.xmp" or "blubber.xmp", XnView would find them.

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Re: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by Justin » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:52 pm

OK, so could these suggestions be considered for implementation?

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Re: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by t3mujin » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:12 pm

I currently run exiftool to sync metadata between the two formats, so having this would be great. Even if not intended to support both at the same time, to avoid conflicts, there could be an option which format would be used at Import/Export actions.

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Re: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by Justin » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:48 pm

It would be courteous to hear a response from the developer on the question he asked.

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Re: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by xnview » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:19 pm

Justin wrote:It would be courteous to hear a response from the developer on the question he asked.
it's implemented in 0.83
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Re: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by Justin » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:41 pm

Thank you for listening and implementing this, however it is not working for me. When the option (fliename.extension.xmp) is selected the xmp is written as 'filename.xmp'.

Tested in Mint 18 64bit with *.CR2 & *.DNG

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Re: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by xnview » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:27 am

See Issue 981 for details.
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Re: 0.82: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by helmut » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:00 pm

This problem is supposed to be fixed in XnView MP 0.84 beta 1.

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Re: 0.82: Naming of Sidecar files

Post by Dominius » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:03 am

No chance of your bringing in exiv2 .exv files, is there? I have it on good authority from Phil Harvey that they're nothing but JPEGs without the header. Exiftool has had the writing and reading of these going back to 2014. The original spec (Andreas Huggel's) provided for the copying of IPTC and EXIF as well as XMP. I've tried this in Exiftool to my disappointment. Exiv2: no problems at all.

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