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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:58 pm
by Drahken
I have paint.xnp (156k) and paint.lng (1.23k) in the addons folder.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:29 am
by xnview
Drahken wrote:I have paint.xnp (156k) and paint.lng (1.23k) in the addons folder.
Do you have reloaded it?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:59 am
by Drahken
So... you're the one who wrote all those "if there is no picture or sound, make sure you have turned the tv on" manuals. :p
Of course I reloaded xnview after installing the plugin, and I have reopened xnview several times since then, and still nothing. Is it possible that the paint plugin only works with the most recent version of xnview? Can anyone get it to work on RC3?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:06 am
by xnview
Drahken wrote:So... you're the one who wrote all those "if there is no picture or sound, make sure you have turned the tv on" manuals. :p
Of course I reloaded xnview after installing the plugin, and I have reopened xnview several times since then, and still nothing. Is it possible that the paint plugin only works with the most recent version of xnview? Can anyone get it to work on RC3?
Oh, Paint plugin works only with the 1.90.3!

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:08 am
by helmut
xnview wrote:Oh, Paint plugin works only with the 1.90.3!
That's important to know. I've just added a note in the initial post.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:18 pm
by Drahken
Yeah, that is kinda important to know. ;)
I don't generally bother with incremental updates for software, I only update when the new version fixes a bug that bothered me or adds a feature I wanted.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:45 pm
by Mike Truly
Pierre,

Thanks very much for the Paint functionality! This is a great start and is very handy already for making notations on images. (I love the vector approach!)

Naturally some thoughts on possible improvements:

1. It would be great to be able to save out the vector overlay to a file so you could load and edit the vector notations again later.

2. I would love to see the spinners and numeric increments have some sort of a quick slider that would let you 'dial in' numbers. (For example to quickly change opacity from 100% to 75% without having to type it in).

3. Whenever I hit 'Enter' to enter a value, the entire Paint window closes. I would like it NOT to close until the user clicks the 'OK' button.

4. It would improve the look greatly to be able to have the vector objects rendered into the image with anti-aliasing (if possible).

5. Obviously the ability to change the order of the vector objects (back, front, push, pull, etc.).

Thanks again for this great tool!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:51 pm
by helmut
Mike Truly wrote:5. Obviously the ability to change the order of the vector objects (back, front, push, pull, etc.).
"Move on Back" and "Move on Front" is available in the context menu (right mouse click).

Note:
"Move on Back/Front" sounds like strange English to me. I'll post a request in the translation section.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:14 pm
by Mike Truly
Helmut,

Thanks for this tip! I had not found the Move to Back, Move to Front functionality.

Thanks again.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:17 pm
by helmut
Mike Truly wrote:Thanks for this tip! I had not found the Move to Back, Move to Front functionality.
The context menu is a bit hidden and some people might not know. Perhaps toolbar buttons could be added but too many toolbar buttons are no good, either. Personally I'd vote for "No toolbar buttons for Move to Front / Back".

No menu

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:32 am
by Clo
—> helmut

• Hi !

• I don't get any local right-click menu anywhere in the tool…

• I guess it's related to a hitch I reported for the 1.90.x versions : It's getting difficult (for me at least)
to catch the local menu in View mode, often I have to right-click several times,
I get rather the grab-hand cursor (I use it) prior… :|

• It's quite irritating…

:mrgreen: G.
Claude
Clo

Paint - Quick open/close/apply/save suggestions

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:29 am
by Dreamer
I suggest to make a single hotkey to open Paint, but also close - and automatically apply (and save) changes. I'm not sure if P is right hotkey for this.

Another suggestion - Option to automatically apply / save changes on close (by Escape or [X] button).

There should be an option to control these options - if it should be applied, applied and saved, or not applied.

Paint - Size and position of Paint window

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:33 am
by Dreamer
Size and position of Paint window should be saved on close. Default window size (and position) could be perhaps the same as Viewer XnView window.

Paint - Keyboard shortcuts

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:52 am
by Dreamer
Several standard keyboard shortcuts are missing in Paint (some already mentioned, but not all).

Zoom in - +
Zoom out - -
Undo - Ctrl+Z
Redo - Ctrl+Y?
"Color information" * - hold Ctrl (+click)
Add text - Shift+T
Original size - Num *
Fit to window - Num /
and others...

* - it should be Colour, I think.

More tools

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:50 pm
by Clo
:) Hello All !

• Despite pretty lacunæ, bugs and whatever annoyances with the Paint tool, I'm testing it still,
especially in order to update our Manual (should be used for the official Help too…)

• Like this has been pointed out here already, storing all retouchs as one go from the [OK] button is quite inconvenient.
- A selection - usual plus “Lasso” - and a pen¦cil are also missing…

• Hence, I would propose to complete the tools like shown below :

    Image

• It should be desirable IMO to add icons at the right side, because it's instinctive to use frequently
and also to avoid I would have to change the whole “map” I made in the Manual :P

• What do you think ? Image

:mrgreen: KR
Claude
Clo