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Layout menu: Easier handling
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:17 pm
by helmut
Currently, the layout menu (View > Layout) has seven entries. I think it's hard for people to see the difference.
Some suggestions:
- Separator between the normal layouts and the film strip layouts.
- The symboles for film strip layouts look a bit different to the normal layouts. The difference could be empasized a bit more. The special thing about the film strip layout is the alignment of the thumbnails, this might be stressed somehow in the symbols.
- Currently people talk about layout #4 or #7. Why not add a number in the menu so that all people talk about the same layouts without counting them? (The number might not look that nice, though).
XnView 1.90 <x>
Yes, useful
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:10 pm
by Clo
• Hi !
• I agree, all these improved details would be useful and not a big deal to add…

G.
Claude
Clo
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:29 am
by ckit
I support everything Helmut and Clo have said

Easy--- but
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:51 am
by Clo
—> ckit

Hi !
• Thanks to support the
helmut's proposals !
• I made a quick test, it's quite easy to add the number of each layout as text in the menu(s) :
- It's not a fake, just added in the resources to get a clue…
- Whether this could pose a problem with the bitmaps, the numbers might be painted on them, that's pretty annoying since all bitmaps would be to remake (2 sets, black & white and coloured)

KR
Claude
Clo
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:54 am
by ckit
We need numbers and pictures\symbols.
The problem---
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:18 pm
by Clo
—> ckit

Again !
We need numbers and pictures\symbols.
• Indeed ! I meant that I don't know if the number as text + the bitmap can be painted… I'm not a programmer.
- The width might be auto-adjusted - like this occurs for all menus in Win- so my pic is not quite explicit, but the resource editor doesn't show the assigned bitmaps (not supported, that is a pity !)

KR
Claude
Clo
Re: The problem---
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:49 pm
by xnview
Clo wrote:
We need numbers and pictures\symbols.
• Indeed ! I meant that I don't know if the number as text + the bitmap can be painted… I'm not a programmer.
Currently it's not possible!
Re: The problem---
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:36 pm
by Olivier_G
xnview wrote:Currently it's not possible!
What about adding those numbers directly in the picture (on a transparent background to the right)?
Edit: I missed that previous comment from Claude... Clo wrote:Whether this could pose a problem with the bitmaps, the numbers might be painted on them, that's pretty annoying since all bitmaps would be to remake (2 sets, black & white and coloured)
I would prefer not on the picture itself (so that people still easily see layouts) but rather on the right (to put emphasis on the layout rather than on the number).
Re: The problem---
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:22 pm
by xnview
Olivier_G wrote:xnview wrote:Currently it's not possible!
What about adding those numbers directly in the picture (on a transparent background to the right)?
Yes, why not. Do you agree??
Enlarge---
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:52 pm
by Clo

Hi !
• The numbers on the bitmaps are OK, but you must change each, enlarge and add the digit…
Or else, I agree, this might look nice and handy.

KR
Claude
Clo
Re: The problem---
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:43 pm
by helmut
xnview wrote:Olivier_G wrote:xnview wrote:Currently it's not possible!
What about adding those numbers directly in the picture (on a transparent background to the right)?
Yes, why not. Do you agree??
I also agree. Perhaps you could use Arial 8 (Windows 98, 2000) or Tahoma 8 (Windows XP) as font.
The layout symbols might be refurbished a bit. With some less details they would be clearer. I've drawn a bit and think they have become a bit better, but it needs a designer to really improve them.
Original and Draft #1 (without the suggested numbering and separator):

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:08 am
by Dreamer
I agree too. Draft #1 from Helmut looks good.
Tree and number
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:40 am
by Clo

Hello !
• The bitmaps patched by
helmut are indeed better.
• However, personally I think that the representation of the tree is not explicit, it looks like rather as a list.
- I would prefer a classic tree, like shown below with a number, at right or at left, just to get a clue :
• I'ld have a weakness for “Right”, but it's a bit wider…

KR
Claude
Clo
Re: The problem---
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:58 am
by xnview
helmut wrote:I've drawn a bit and think they have become a bit better, but it needs a designer to really improve them.
Ok, when you'll have good bitmap, send me them

Perhaps we can ask Yuri??
Re: Tree and number
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:27 pm
by Olivier_G
Clo wrote:
I like this Treeview symbol a lot!
(So much... that I think Thumbnails and Preview are now the weak parts and should be improved...
).
The outline/separation idea by Helmut is also great.
About the Numbers: I would prefer flat ones instead.