Layout menu: Easier handling

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Layout menu: Easier handling

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Currently, the layout menu (View > Layout) has seven entries. I think it's hard for people to see the difference.

Some suggestions:

- Separator between the normal layouts and the film strip layouts.

- The symboles for film strip layouts look a bit different to the normal layouts. The difference could be empasized a bit more. The special thing about the film strip layout is the alignment of the thumbnails, this might be stressed somehow in the symbols.

- Currently people talk about layout #4 or #7. Why not add a number in the menu so that all people talk about the same layouts without counting them? (The number might not look that nice, though).

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Yes, useful

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• Hi !

• I agree, all these improved details would be useful and not a big deal to add…

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I support everything Helmut and Clo have said :)
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Easy--- but

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—> ckit

:) Hi !

• Thanks to support the helmut's proposals !

• I made a quick test, it's quite easy to add the number of each layout as text in the menu(s) :

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- It's not a fake, just added in the resources to get a clue…
- Whether this could pose a problem with the bitmaps, the numbers might be painted on them, that's pretty annoying since all bitmaps would be to remake (2 sets, black & white and coloured) :|

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We need numbers and pictures\symbols.
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The problem---

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—> ckit

:) Again !
We need numbers and pictures\symbols.
• Indeed ! I meant that I don't know if the number as text + the bitmap can be painted… I'm not a programmer.
- The width might be auto-adjusted - like this occurs for all menus in Win- so my pic is not quite explicit, but the resource editor doesn't show the assigned bitmaps (not supported, that is a pity !)

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Re: The problem---

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Clo wrote:
We need numbers and pictures\symbols.
• Indeed ! I meant that I don't know if the number as text + the bitmap can be painted… I'm not a programmer.
Currently it's not possible!
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Re: The problem---

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xnview wrote:Currently it's not possible!
What about adding those numbers directly in the picture (on a transparent background to the right)?

Edit: I missed that previous comment from Claude...
Clo wrote:Whether this could pose a problem with the bitmaps, the numbers might be painted on them, that's pretty annoying since all bitmaps would be to remake (2 sets, black & white and coloured) :|
I would prefer not on the picture itself (so that people still easily see layouts) but rather on the right (to put emphasis on the layout rather than on the number).
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Re: The problem---

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Olivier_G wrote:
xnview wrote:Currently it's not possible!
What about adding those numbers directly in the picture (on a transparent background to the right)?
Yes, why not. Do you agree??
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Enlarge---

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:) Hi !

• The numbers on the bitmaps are OK, but you must change each, enlarge and add the digit…
Or else, I agree, this might look nice and handy.

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Re: The problem---

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xnview wrote:
Olivier_G wrote:
xnview wrote:Currently it's not possible!
What about adding those numbers directly in the picture (on a transparent background to the right)?
Yes, why not. Do you agree??
I also agree. Perhaps you could use Arial 8 (Windows 98, 2000) or Tahoma 8 (Windows XP) as font.

The layout symbols might be refurbished a bit. With some less details they would be clearer. I've drawn a bit and think they have become a bit better, but it needs a designer to really improve them.

Original and Draft #1 (without the suggested numbering and separator):
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I agree too. Draft #1 from Helmut looks good.
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Tree and number

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:) Hello !

• The bitmaps patched by helmut are indeed better.

• However, personally I think that the representation of the tree is not explicit, it looks like rather as a list.
- I would prefer a classic tree, like shown below with a number, at right or at left, just to get a clue :

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• I'ld have a weakness for “Right”, but it's a bit wider…

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Re: The problem---

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helmut wrote:I've drawn a bit and think they have become a bit better, but it needs a designer to really improve them.
Ok, when you'll have good bitmap, send me them :-)
Perhaps we can ask Yuri??
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Re: Tree and number

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Clo wrote:Image
I like this Treeview symbol a lot! (So much... that I think Thumbnails and Preview are now the weak parts and should be improved... :mrgreen: ).
The outline/separation idea by Helmut is also great.
About the Numbers: I would prefer flat ones instead.
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