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A lot of tagging

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:48 pm
by helmut
The menu for tagging (View > Tag) got pretty crowded these days. In 1.92 beta it looks like this:
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Tag current
Untag current
Invert
Untag all
Clear all tags
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Show tag box
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What's the difference between "Untag current" and "Untag all"?

"Clear all tags" will clear all tags - not just the ones in the current folder but all tags ever set. (Makes only sense in combination with the option in Tools > Browser > Thumbnails > Info icons". I think this function should be separated by seperator because this will affect not just the selected.

My suggestion:
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Tag
Untag
Invert
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Untag all (or "Clear all" or "Reset all" or "Reset all tags" or "Untag overall")
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Show tag box
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Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:22 pm
by xnview
'Untag all' untag files from current view, and 'clear all tags' clear for all files

Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:05 pm
by helmut
xnview wrote:'Untag all' untag files from current view, and 'clear all tags' clear for all files
This is clear. But what's the difference between "Untag current" and "Untag all".

Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:45 am
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:But what's the difference between "Untag current" and "Untag all".
Untag current file / Untag all tagged files, right Pierre?

For me "Invert" is a bit confusing - there is a similar feature - "Invert selected" - to select all unselected files and unselect all selected, but here "Invert" is just to toggle the current file. Perhaps other term would be better - "Toggle", or "Invert current", or just "Tag/Untag"?

Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:25 am
by xnview
Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:But what's the difference between "Untag current" and "Untag all".
Untag current file / Untag all tagged files, right Pierre?
Yes

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:28 am
by pic_viewer
That is unclear and not intuitive. A feature that works outside the current working area (outside the current view or directory) should be called 'Global' IMHO. So 'Untag all' would change to 'Global Untag'.

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:25 am
by marsh
The term "Clear tag category" might help reenforce the learning of this function- depending on how it will ultimately work.
See posts in this topic

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:09 pm
by xnview
i think that "Clear tag category" is better

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:39 pm
by helmut
xnview wrote:i think that "Clear tag category" is better
We have the tags. And now we have a Tag category. That's confusing somehow.

I'd rather have something like "Global untag" or "Untag all tagged files (global)".

@pic_viewer: I do like your "global". ;-)

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:49 am
by xnview
helmut wrote:
xnview wrote:i think that "Clear tag category" is better
We have the tags. And now we have a Tag category. That's confusing somehow.

I'd rather have something like "Global untag" or "Untag all tagged files (global)".

@pic_viewer: I do like your "global". ;-)
Tag is a temporary category as discussed on some thread...
I'm not sure that 'Global' is good

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:27 pm
by Dreamer
I don't like "global" either. I like "Untag all tagged files".

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:32 am
by helmut
Dreamer wrote:I don't like "global" either. I like "Untag all tagged files".
O.k.. What about a separator?

Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:34 am
by helmut
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:But what's the difference between "Untag current" and "Untag all".
Untag current file / Untag all tagged files, right Pierre?
Yes
Still don't get it:
Untag: Untag current file
Untag all: Untag all files
Clear all tags: ???

There's something wrong, missing, or superfluous, I think.

Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:53 am
by xnview
Untag: Untag current file
Untag all: Untag all files from current view
Clear all tags: Untag all tagged files (stored in DB)

Re: A lot of tagging

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:20 am
by helmut
xnview wrote:Untag: Untag current file
Untag all: Untag all files from current view
Clear all tags: Untag all tagged files (stored in DB)
I see. But I think this is confusing.

Do we really need "Untag all files from current view"? With "Ctrl+A" and Space key does the same job.

(Actually I noticed that Space key does not set and unset but invert, which is wrong, I think. I'll start a new topic for this).