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"Save As" for Browser vs. Batch Convert

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:22 am
by Dreamer
I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:09 am
by xnview
Dreamer wrote:I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.
To convert quikcly a picture?

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:54 pm
by Dreamer
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.
To convert quikcly a picture?
Yes, a single picture. "Save As" dialog should appears also after "Ctrl+S".

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:45 pm
by helmut
Dreamer wrote:
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I suggest to add "Save As" (and maybe also "Save") to menu, toolbar button and shortcut also for Browser.
To convert quikcly a picture?
Yes, a single picture. "Save As" dialog should appears also after "Ctrl+S".
I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:29 am
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".
Why? Converting a single picture would be much easier.

I miss such feature long time. It would be very useful.

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:20 pm
by helmut
Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".
Why? Converting a single picture would be much easier.

I miss such feature long time. It would be very useful.
When a door is hard to open and squeakes, you put oil on it. But you won't saw a whole into it to walk through.

What I mean:
If "Convert" is complicated to use, we should try to make it easier to use. For example, the output folder could be the same as the original file. And the output folder could be a drop down list with recently used folders. Just some initial ideas...

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 am
by xnview
helmut wrote:
Dreamer wrote:
helmut wrote:I don't like this. "Save as..." is for saving a changed file. For converting people should open the file or use "Convert...".
Why? Converting a single picture would be much easier.

I miss such feature long time. It would be very useful.
When a door is hard to open and squeakes, you put oil on it. But you won't saw a whole into it to walk through.

What I mean:
If "Convert" is complicated to use, we should try to make it easier to use. For example, the output folder could be the same as the original file. And the output folder could be a drop down list with recently used folders. Just some initial ideas...
But perhaps it would be great to make special dialog to convert or resize pictures easily...

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:36 pm
by Dreamer
I agree, but we (Helmut?) should start a new topic...

Anyway, I still think "Save As" in Browser would be useful.

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:55 am
by helmut
xnview wrote:But perhaps it would be great to make special dialog to convert or resize pictures easily...
Please reread my "door" analogy. We have Sequence convert, a Multi convert and a Batch rename. Do you really want to add a "Quick convert"?

Problem seems to be a complicated conversion dialog if you simply want to change the format. So let's try to make that one simpler, first. And if this does not work out, we still can try to find another solution.
Dreamer wrote:I agree, but we (Helmut?) should start a new topic...
Let's continue this thread. Until now this is all "in-topic".

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:52 pm
by marsh
Batch convert will use current directory if its output field is cleared with <del>. Because of this, it is faster than other method for me. Perhaps the dialogue can be improved (while keeping it small enough). Possibilites:

1. Display "Same directory as file(s)" instead of empty space for output directory when possible.
2. Down Arrow with recent directories, including "Same directory as file(s)", to right of output directory. Favorites?
3. Automatically include filename when launching from viewer (more powerful alternative to 'save as'). http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?t=2955

Else---

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:41 pm
by Clo
:arrow: marsh

:) Hello !

- To convert a single file at the same time, this solution could do the trick as well…

:mrgreen: Kind regards,
Claude,
Clo

Re: Else---

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:54 pm
by marsh
Clo wrote: - To convert a single file at the same time, this solution could do the trick as well…
Ah yes, the long combo-box list problem. What if 5 most recently used types were floated to top of list with a separator?

Re: "Save As" also for Browser

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:04 pm
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:We have Sequence convert, a Multi convert and a Batch rename. Do you really want to add a "Quick convert"?
He wants another dialog(s)? Then I disagree.
helmut wrote:
xnview wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I agree, but we (Helmut?) should start a new topic...
Let's continue this thread. Until now this is all "in-topic".
I have several suggestions to "Improve Batch Convert", but we can continue here...

Temporary---

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:31 pm
by Clo
:arrow: marsh

:) Hi again !
…What if 5 most recently used types were floated to top of list with a separator?
- Sounds good as a temporary minimal improvement (could be set as extra INI-entries like proposed here) but could not solve the problem of a needed alternative path for saving, in example : *.aaa in path #1 >> *.bbb in path #2 >>> *.aaa in path #1 … and so on…
- Moreover, the Ouistiti's brainwave of (a) "Wildcard" button(s) is great, an should allow to add / change to any "exotic" format if needed at any time, quickly and easily…
- About the topic here, indeed I think too that "Save as…" might be available from all modes, I support the Dreamer's request.

:mrgreen: K R
Claude
Clo

Improve Batch Convert

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:42 pm
by Dreamer
Improve Batch Convert suggestions:

#1 "[x] Use the same directory as file(s)" (Marsh, you were faster :wink: )

#2 Rename [Options] "button" to [Format Options] and automatically focus on selected format

#3 Divide some "special" options, e.g. load/save script, nconvert

#4 (maybe?) Add "buttons" for most used actions, e.g. [Resize], [Crop], [Add Text] and automatically open "Advanced Operations" dialog and focus on appropriate option
- About the topic here, indeed I think too that "Save as…" might be available from all modes, I support the Dreamer's request.
Thanks Clo.